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Sure if you want a pizzed off inspector who will absolutely know the game youre playing and will likely go out of his way to nail you later...
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>>>around here, contractors hate to get permits and often tell the owner to do it - unlike what Curt E. describes for where he is, the law requires a permit but does not require the contractor to get one...<<<
Oregon uses the same Code as Michigan (as well as most other states these days) - all based on the International Mechanical Code. The Code (in fact, all Codes I've ever seen in 30 years) require a permit by the "owner, authorized agent or contractor". A contractor doing work without a permit is in violation of the building code - it is his obligation under his license to see that a permit is pulled before he does work. If he can talk some dupe homeowner into doing it for him, good for him. As I stated, the only reason a contractor would ask the homeowner to pull the permit is because he doesn't have a license (a homeowner can do his own work without a license) or he wants to shirttail onto the homeowners GL insurance. Pulling a permit yourself for work being done by a contractor you hire enters you into a General Contractor/subcontractor relationship. That is a recipe for trouble. Let the contractor do everything, then you'll only have one phone call to make when the house blows up :D |
That's what i do - but there are few contractors here who will do it -- that's my point.
No idea re the regs. and enforcement policies where you are -- those determine how a "uniform" code turns out not be so uniform in practice. |
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There is no way in hell, that I am going to risk my license, by doing work without a permit. But I do know guys that do. Why, is beyond me. I will always try to go and get the permit for a customer, especially if plans have to be submitted. The only time I will ask a customer to get the permit, is if there is no way for me to get to the code office. My construction business is not my primary full time job, so at times it is hard for me to get there during the week.
Honestly, my biggest complaint with the whole process is, that I wish the inspectors would get their heads out of their own azzes and all get on the same page. You can deal with four different inspectors from the same town and every one of them will tell you a different way that they want something done! |
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There's no 'blanket' because there's no existing apparatus in the hearth. Just a big empty brick hole. There is concern to the size of the chimney, but the new fireplace I selected has smaller liners (3" exhaust, 2" intake) to accomodate my style chimney. As far as 'what kind' of permit to get, I thinking that since the contractor ONLY does fireplaces and has offered to go get the permit, he knows what to get. Thanks! SmileWavy |
I would let the person with the license get the permit.
I had to get town and county permits to upgrade the electrical. |
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I told the fireplace contractor that I wanted to get a permit, And since the electrician has already come and gone and run the electric for the blower, I have to call the Electrician back and have him pull a permit for the electric he already did, or else the inspector will get mad about the unpermitted electric run. |
I pulled one just to install a zero clearance pellet stove. For the insurance doncha know.
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So you can fix and italian espresso machine with a bad relay yet you hire an electrician to wire up a furnace ? Please step down from the pedastil I had you on ..:D:D
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Permits for inside the house for insurance and resale. Lawn sprinklers and drainage, no.
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Everyone knows you don't get a permit for the shallow hooker grave in the backyard....
Frigging rockstars.... |
I think he's installing the fireplace so he can burn the shallow hooker.
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I"d rather have a shallow hooker than one who's talking about Ayn Rand and existentialism and Erik Satie and crap all day.
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Can't argue with that.
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BTDT. Never make that mistake, again.
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What, didn't have a big enough fireplace for the hooker? Or didn't get a shallow one?
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