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bivenator 06-13-2011 08:35 AM

Home Remedies, this one for the gallbladder
 
I was having some stomach issues (bloating, gas, indigestion, heartburn) that were ongoing for about 5 years and beginning to worsen. After an intense party weekend on Lake Travis during Memorial Day weekend I began to experience sharp right sided pain.
Living like I was twenty for the past 3 months with poor diet, alcohol, cigars and some stress to boot brought on a gallbladder attack.
I sought out help on the interwebs and found a gallbladder clense reciepe.
It takes about 5 days, slowly reducing fat in the diet and drinking copious amounts of apple juice and eating apples. The last two days all fat from the diet is stopped and the apple juice is continued. The day of the clense, you begin fasting after breakfast. At 8 pm and 10 pm you drink some epsom salt water and at midnight the magic elixir. What is the magic, it is a cup of olive oil and a cup of lemon juice.
After drinking the oil and juice mixture you retire to bed and in the morning a gigantic BM containing gall stones is forced from you body with a furious anger.

I have not had any of the bloating, gas etc. since the treatment last Weds. I have been more cautious of my diet but seem to be tolerating food without any problems. I feel great and highly recommend this for anyone, with Gbladder problems or even those without.
Any home remedies you would like to share?

jyl 06-13-2011 09:07 AM

I had a spate of gallbladder attacks last year.

Reduced fat in diet, refrained from large amounts of fat at one sitting, lost weight - no more gallbladder attacks.

I wanted to avoid having my gallbladder removed, because it does serve some purpose. Body uses bile to digest fat. Gallbaldder stores bile and releases through bile duct into intestines when body senses large amount of fat has been consumed. In caveman days we went without fat for days/weeks, then we killed a large animal amd consumed lots of fat at one sitting. Need for bile was thus highly variable, and gallbladder provides the burst of bile when we need it. When the gallbladder is removed, digestive tract gets a constant drip of bile, whether needed or not. Okay in most cases, because our fat intake is less variable than before. But some people experience less graceful handling of certain foods. Not a big downside, but some downside nonetheless.

The gallstone flushes are controversial - my reading indicates what are "flushed" are not gallstones, but rather oil/fat lumps from the oil ingested. You can retrieve some from your poop and cut into them, if they are soft and dissolve, they are not gallstones. (edit - see here
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/flushes.html )

The bile duct from gallbladder is very narrow (I looked up the diameter once, it is several mm I think - edit: 5-10mm) and if a slew of gallstones actually got flushed from gallbladder into the duct,, you'd feel massive pain and/or bile duct blockage which can be very serious indeed.

Ultrasound can identify and measure your gallstones. My largest one is 2.4 cm diameter, so I know it is not going through the bile duct no matter how many gallons of olive oil I consume.

Not a doctor at all, merely self-read in this area, so take the above w/ a grain of salt.

bivenator 06-13-2011 09:23 AM

There are conflicting opinions on the flush. The epsom salt relaxes the smooth muscle (ie common bile duct) creating a larger diameter for the gallstone to pass through.
I was wary of the clense and read the differing opinions. In the end, I decided the risk was outweighed by the reward.
I will say that my experience was very positive. YMMV, but the alternatives to the clense were not where I wanted to be.

masraum 06-13-2011 09:36 AM

I've never done it, but my wife has. Not because she has stones, but just for health benefits.

Whether you pass stones, and whether the stuff in your poo is from the gall bladder or not, if you're feeling that much better, it was definitely worth it and must have done something positive.

nynor 06-13-2011 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bivenator (Post 6076885)
I was having some stomach issues (bloating, gas, indigestion, heartburn) that were ongoing for about 5 years and beginning to worsen. After an intense party weekend on Lake Travis during Memorial Day weekend I began to experience sharp right sided pain.
Living like I was twenty for the past 3 months with poor diet, alcohol, cigars and some stress to boot brought on a gallbladder attack.
I sought out help on the interwebs and found a gallbladder clense reciepe.
It takes about 5 days, slowly reducing fat in the diet and drinking copious amounts of apple juice and eating apples. The last two days all fat from the diet is stopped and the apple juice is continued. The day of the clense, you begin fasting after breakfast. At 8 pm and 10 pm you drink some epsom salt water and at midnight the magic elixir. What is the magic, it is a cup of olive oil and a cup of lemon juice.
After drinking the oil and juice mixture you retire to bed and in the morning a gigantic BM containing gall stones is forced from you body with a furious anger.

I have not had any of the bloating, gas etc. since the treatment last Weds. I have been more cautious of my diet but seem to be tolerating food without any problems. I feel great and highly recommend this for anyone, with Gbladder problems or even those without.
Any home remedies you would like to share?


this made me LOL. i am glad you are feeling better.

look 171 06-13-2011 10:32 AM

My dad fought it for 20 years. Finally it was infected and ended up in the hospital. Doc suggest removal. He finally got rid of it, and came home in two days. He's 74 years old. Most people go home the very same day. Two days later he started driving again. No more pain. the fear is that if the gall bladder burst from infection, then it will be a big mess. Get some antibiotic and reduce the swelling and infection, then remove.

red-beard 06-13-2011 10:43 AM

Just imagine your bold text spoken by Samuel Jackson ala Pulp Fiction

nynor 06-13-2011 10:48 AM

LOL!!!! again!

and the righteous man, etc., etc.....

azasadny 06-13-2011 02:46 PM

Surgery is the only permanent fix for cholecystitis. A laparoscopic cholecystectomy is a walk in the park. Far less pain than a root canal and then you can eat whatever you want again. None of the apple cider, colon irrigation skata....

bivenator 06-13-2011 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by azasadny (Post 6077624)
Surgery is the only permanent fix for cholecystitis. A laparoscopic cholecystectomy is a walk in the park. Far less pain than a root canal and then you can eat whatever you want again. None of the apple cider, colon irrigation skata....

While it is true that the cholecystectomy is not much as far as surgery goes, there are still a large number of patients who experience similar abdominal discomfort to pre Gbladder removal. It doesnt always cure the pain.

jyl 06-13-2011 06:04 PM

Which may suggest their pain may not have been due to the gallbladder?

bivenator 06-13-2011 06:30 PM

That is entirely possible. It is also possible that the bile produced by the liver is irritating the bowels as it is no longer being stored while not needed and continues to "drip".
I had pizza tonite for the first time since the "cleanse" with no ill effects.

boboli 06-13-2011 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 6077151)
Just imagine your bold text spoken by Samuel Jackson ala Pulp Fiction

lol..Thank you I needed that!

boboli 06-13-2011 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nynor (Post 6077161)
LOL!!!! again!

and the righteous man, etc., etc.....

lol...and this one topped it off..Thank you On the serious side I just read last night about a home remedy with a coffee Enema..Thought about trying it but I thought breakfast may never be the same. I'll wait it out and take my chances with surgury

E38Driver 06-13-2011 08:49 PM

Years ago Johnny Carson had Michael Landon on and ML was talking about coffee enemas because he was undergoing some type of cancer treatment and Johnny Carson quipped that he would never go to Michael's house for coffee and danish. Brought greats laughs from the audience.

Dave

NY65912 06-14-2011 08:51 AM

My daughter just had a GB removed a month ago, laparoscopic cholecystectomy.

She had one of the best surgeons in NYC do it at NY Presbyterian Hospital. She went home tha afternoon. And had a very easy recovery. She has always been careful about her diet. She ate her first hamburger in three years this pst weekend. She's happy as a clam and feels great.

The doc said there were no other options. I know it was the atraight story as my niece is a nurse who works with him. The home treatments cannot get rid of stones lodged in your bile ducts.

widgeon13 06-14-2011 09:41 AM

If I drank that at midnight I wouldn't make it to morning, I'd either **** the bed or wake to make the forty yard dash to the bathroom.:D


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