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That is seriously f##k%D . A few seconds sooner and he would have slid right by into the ditch.

That road does look familiar, almost like the road from Canmore to Lake Louise .

Probably did not have winter tires either.

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In all honesty, I think I would avoid that type of road in hazardous driving conditions. Given the conditions, I'd say it was purely an accident that was hard to avoid.
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Ive seen plenty of head on MVAs I've never seen a vehicle completely vaporize like that.
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Another stark reminder that when the weather is crummy, and you don't *need* to get somewhere, stay put (I obviously don't know if this was the case for this video).

I'll never forget coming across a horrific wreck that occurred maybe 30 minutes prior to my crossing. It was beautiful out - perfect driving conditions. Unfortunately about 30 minutes earlier it was a torrential downpour w/ horrible visibility.

I could not get over what a difference 30 minutes made. I try to ask myself if I *need* to go when I'm tempted to travel in bad weather. Its just not worth it.
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Ive seen plenty of head on MVAs I've never seen a vehicle completely vaporize like that.
I have been on a few aviation accident investigation/boards. As you know, the physics of crashes, the how and why, are unique to each event.

I have seen wrecks where the aircraft came apart around the crew and they all lived, when the wreckage would have suggested otherwise. I have also seen relatively intact aircraft that has the crash unfolded, subjected the aircrew to life ending forces.

This one looks like the unfortunate merge of tonnage, speed and angle of collision, a broadside in the weakest part of the SUV against the front of a semi.

Bless them all, especially the driver of the semi...he has a lot on his mind.

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The first time I watched it my eyes immediately looked up and left and I saw the semi...I always preach to my kids to look ahead, as far as you can whenever you can when driving.

Regardless, I have been run off the road in icy conditions and the dance is macabre, endless in the mind, seconds in reality and once it begins, impossible to correct in certain circumstances.
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Any way to find out where this happened?
original post on liveleak says russia.
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That is seriously f##k%D . A few seconds sooner and he would have slid right by into the ditch.

That road does look familiar, almost like the road from Canmore to Lake Louise .

Probably did not have winter tires either.
It amazes me how many people are unaware winter tires even exist. Many people will mention how "they make no difference", too expensive, etc...

Snow tires are amazing. My Maxima is an absolute tank with the Dunlops I have on it for the winter...
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I used to do serious/fatal traffic accident investigations when large trucks were involved. The sheer violence is horrific.

Bluntly put, you absolutely positively do not want to **** up around a large truck...
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Angela, in a former lifetime I was an apprentice mechanic for a major shipping company in Northern California.
I liked my job and was good at it.

I was doing a brake job on a dolly (a 5th-wheeled gear which connects two 28ft trailers), and was told to use a different type of brake drum(Webb to Centerline I think) as part of a fleet-conversion process.

I put the new drum on, but noticed the lugnut didn't even cover the end of the stud(only 3/4in of thread).
The problem was the new drum had a thicker flang.

I went back to my journeyman and suggested we call the manufacturer...longer studs might be needed.
He told me to put it together and ship it out.
I said no. It didn't look right.
The Assistant Head of North California division came out of the office and together with the Union shop steward got right in my face.
I said no again and suggested I call the manufacturer.
They yelled in my face:"There's a right way and the [company] way. Get this f'n thing out of here"
I said no again.
Another mechanic called the manufacturer and found out it required different studs.

Having a 80-90ft vehicle lose a wheel in it's center of roll on a turn then flip over onto a line of cars is crazy.

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I didn't grow up around much snow. Now I live here ( call it paradise). No snow. I go up to the snow all the time. I drive so conservative my passengers border on mutiny. I would have never tried to pass like that. That poor family. Sucks
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Angela, in a former lifetime I was an apprentice mechanic for a major shipping company in Northern California.
I liked my job and was good at it.

I was doing a brake job on a dolly (a 5th-wheeled gear which connects two 28ft trailers), and was told to use a different type of brake drum(Webb to Centerline I think) as part of a fleet-conversion process.

I put the new drum on, but noticed the lugnut didn't even cover the end of the stud(only 3/4in of thread).
The problem was the new drum had a thicker flang.

I went back to my journeyman and suggested we call the manufacturer...longer studs might be needed.
He told me to put it together and ship it out.
I said no. It didn't look right.
The Assistant Head of North California division came out of the office and together with the Union shop steward got right in my face.
I said no again and suggested I call the manufacturer.
They yelled in my face:"There's a right way and the [company] way. Get this f'n thing out of here"
I said no again.
Another mechanic called the manufacturer and found out it required different studs.

Having a 60-70ft long vehicle lose a wheel in it's center of roll on a turn and flip over onto a line of cars is crazy.
Thank you for doing the proper thing. Those long trailers always freak me out. I get past them as fast as reasonable.
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Glen, don't pass them on sharp curves either.
A few of them get "load shift" where everything loose inside toppels over.

I don't envy the Tennesee drivers.
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Those road conditions do not look particularly bad to me. Then again I live in Western Canada where we have real winters.

Just a tragic accident... but @widgeon13, the conditions certainly did NOT make that accident unavoidable... you see plenty of others on that road driving 80-100km/h. Just be careful.

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I was once travelling north on I-75 in white-out conditions. Final leg of a long journey (tired and impatient), I moved across the small hump between the lanes to the left lane to pass a slow truck streaming a blizzard behind it.

Just after getting across the hump and being able to see...I ran over a f'n 9-12ft double ladder!

I would have gone back but there wasn't an exit for miles.
Still regret that.
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This one looks like the unfortunate merge of tonnage, speed and angle of collision, a broadside in the weakest part of the SUV against the front of a semi.
The semi cab lifted off of the ground at 70mph. It could not have been engineered to create a more horrific impact.
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I have been on a few aviation accident investigation/boards. As you know, the physics of crashes, the how and why, are unique to each event.

I have seen wrecks where the aircraft came apart around the crew and they all lived, when the wreckage would have suggested otherwise. I have also seen relatively intact aircraft that has the crash unfolded, subjected the aircrew to life ending forces.
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When I rolled up on this scene. I automatically assumed it was a fatality. The woman driving the Saturn under this fully loaded cement truck only suffered a cut on her forearm and a slight bump un the head. She actually helped pull herself out after we lifted the truck off her and cut her out. (an hour and a half later..) The driver of the truck had a broken leg, and arm and head severe head injuries.

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Good GOd! That SUV was vaporized! Does anyone here run a camera in their car when they're driving down the road? Was the camera car perhaps a police car? I didn't get the sense that it was, because you could hear voices but no radio chatter.
that is what I was thinking, who just drives with a video camera running?

I bet that truck driver will be able to describe, in detail, the faces of the people in that vehicle for the rest of his life.
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When I rolled up on this scene. I automatically assumed it was a fatality. The woman driving the Saturn under this fully loaded cement truck only suffered a cut on her forearm and a slight bump un the head. She actually helped pull herself out after we lifted the truck off her and cut her out. (an hour and a half later..) The driver of the truck had a broken leg, and arm and head severe head injuries.

Vinny it is soo true some of them you come across you think NO WAY and there they are standing talking on their cell phone.

Horrific accident in the video sorry for the families, hope the truck driver can move on if he made it.
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Any way to find out where this happened?
Youtube version has comments that the woman makes a Russian expression that translates to "Oh My God" Another says it's Hungarian for "quickly" I think OMG is fitting.

Tried to look at major expressways to look for dividers in Russia and Hungary but Google Earth is not working properly.

Here is the youtube version.

Insane Freeway Car Crash - Car Splits Into Pieces - YouTube
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That big truck sure looks like one of those that are running around N America. A Kenworth or Mack looking thing. From what I understand, in Europe, they are mostly cab overs. I have been proven wrong many times so what the heck do I know.
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that is what I was thinking, who just drives with a video camera running?

I bet that truck driver will be able to describe, in detail, the faces of the people in that vehicle for the rest of his life.
Driving with a camera will become the norm shortly. It's mainly used to prevent insurance fraud. There was a recent case in Toronto where an insurance scam was successfully foiled by a dash cam. Interesting story and has been well documented on many forums including 4chan.

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