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NY65912 06-12-2012 09:14 AM

Mortgage Sold 1 Month after Getting It?
 
OK, I did a re-fi with Citibank which was approved in April. I got a letter yesterday telling me it was sold to Freddie Mac.

I know mortgages are sold back and forth but in a month's time?

What gives?

red-beard 06-12-2012 09:16 AM

Normal

kaisen 06-12-2012 09:30 AM

Citibank intended to resell it when the wrote it

ratpiper71T 06-12-2012 09:33 AM

When I used to work in a mortgage company-we would have the buying investors(banks) calling us to inquire about the loan BEFORE it had even closed!! We usually told them to go to hell, of course, for that reason.

NY65912 06-12-2012 09:35 AM

Explain to me how they make money.

I feel dirty and used.

Wait, I always feel that way.

tharbert 06-12-2012 09:38 AM

Happened to me one refinance ago... Within about 45 days, we received a new booklet of payment stubs from a second mortgage company.

We just refinanced in the fall with Old National, $200 closing costs and dropped out APR to 3.9. I asked them if they were going to sell it "like last time" and they said they wouldn't. The margin of profit is almost nonexistent at that APR.

Rick Lee 06-12-2012 09:45 AM

They're not making anything on the sale of one loan. It's packaged and then sold on the secondary market. Totally normal and you signed a disclosure at closing acknowledging this could happen. They usually tell you the percentage of likelihood that it will be sold.

NY65912 06-12-2012 09:54 AM

I don't really care that it was sold. I'm trying to figure out how they make money.

kaisen 06-12-2012 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NY65912 (Post 6800255)
I don't really care that it was sold. I'm trying to figure out how they make money.

Selling Mortgage Loans - Mortgage Banks, Depository Institutions

They make a small percentage right away, and have their money back to re-invest. In some cases, they also make money in initial closing costs.

NY65912 06-12-2012 10:06 AM

Sounds to me like this sort of thing could bring down an entire banking system/economy that would then require a gov't bail out using money the gov't did not have and needed to print;)

Thanks for the input.

kaisen 06-12-2012 10:11 AM

Because they're selling financial instruments? You understand that it happens ALL the time, in every possible way? And it happened for decades before the collapse

Zeke 06-12-2012 12:16 PM

I had one loan sold 3 times. A lot of the time a bank will sell the loan but continue to service it. That's one way to make good money with nothing invested. You don't even know who has the pink slip.

mepstein 06-12-2012 12:26 PM

That's why (almost) all mortgages use the same 35 page note. They can be bought and sold with the same terms. Has little to no effect on the mortgagee.

Shaun @ Tru6 06-12-2012 12:41 PM

Making money by pushing risk around. What a great basis for our new economy.

doug_porsche 06-12-2012 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 6800537)
Making money by pushing risk around. What a great basis for our new economy.

Sad but true

304065 06-12-2012 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 6800537)
Making money by pushing risk around. What a great basis for our new economy.

By "new" do you mean "going on since Renaissance Italy?" :)

azasadny 06-12-2012 03:36 PM

Our mortgage was sold several times in less than a year...

biosurfer1 06-12-2012 03:52 PM

I thought it was funny that Bank of America sold mine to Banc of America.

red-beard 06-12-2012 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biosurfer1 (Post 6800853)
I thought it was funny that Bank of America sold mine to Banc of America.

Spelling change or real sale?

Shaun @ Tru6 06-12-2012 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 304065 (Post 6800823)
By "new" do you mean "going on since Renaissance Italy?" :)

those agrarian and manufacturing economies that built our country were just passing fads, I have to agree. ;)


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