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look 171 03-10-2014 10:10 PM

Curt,

I forgotten to add that you must find the OMAS ring bolts. I am not sure if they were Ti or super light alum/alloy? I run alum water bottle Alen bolts on all my bikes except on my current bike. Finally I smart up and save money. Hell, I even have old school ti bottle cages (the wire looking type) and the guys were laughing at me last Saturday because I lack CArbon cages. I spend lot of my summer job money chasing super lights parts. It certainly made me faster, but so were all the others without them. No matter how I tried, they always made me suffered and drag me up the hill like a dead dog with tongue hanging past my 1R stem.

Is that going to be money no object vintage build? if it is, then you must bone up on all the super light alum parts.

look 171 03-10-2014 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by creaturecat (Post 7955201)
Andy Hampsten is on a Huffy, but he isn't a kid. that's for sure.
SmileWavy

Look at that "little Rabbit". He looks so comfortable on that bike climbing on that big 42(?) ring.

intakexhaust 03-10-2014 11:50 PM

^^^What a climber!

Ok- while on the subject.. Giro d'Italia. Trick trivia. Who was the first American to win it?

look 171 03-11-2014 12:53 AM

It was the little Rabbit wasn't it?

intakexhaust 03-11-2014 07:41 AM

Giuseppe Enrici (born January 2, 1898, Pittsburgh, United States - died September 1, 1968, Nice, France) was an Italian professional road racing cyclist. The highlight of his career was winning the 1924 Giro d'Italia.

As I mentioned, trick trivia. Technically he was an American.

intakexhaust 03-11-2014 05:29 PM

Amazing survivors - vintage Austrian classics and other:
http://flickeflu.com/photos/radlmax/interesting

CurtEgerer 03-12-2014 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 7955356)
What do you need to know? I have not heard any bad thing about the 1R stem. One of the guys, a trackie, mention slippage with it, but he was 6"4, 200 lbs. He broke everything including our legs on the flats. I had one on my old Gios but got it scratched up pretty good in a crash so out it went and had TTTs for many years after that. I ride new TTT stems today. There is no need to talk about the Campy Stupid Record is there? They simply are indestructible, not to mention they are the prettiest cranks ever made. Including today's ugly but super light units. People broke the Super Record Ti BBs. I remember seeing a picture of Laurent Figon, "The Professor", sitting on the side of the road holding his Johnson due to the broken Ti BB. I heard people talking about it breaking on them in our club, but never seem it happened personally. The steel ones are super strong that I know for sure.

jeff

The question isn't about the 1R or SR components, it's about the LeMond branding on them. He didn't have a line of bikes at the time (1984-85) as far as I know. So what were they for? Maybe he was selling individual components with the Team LeMond pantograph?

Nice tip on the OMAS bolts :D Will not be using a SR titanium axle. Had one when new and it lasted less than a year due to heavy galling on the bearing surfaces. This isn't exactly a cost-no-object build, but OTOH, my wife knows nothing (and will no nothing) of my budget for this little project either ;)

Another nice 1R, but a bit blingy for a serious build:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1394621475.jpg

nikita76 03-12-2014 12:02 PM

It's time to dress up the fish and break him out for the St.Pat's parade on Sunday!http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1394650938.jpg

intakexhaust 03-12-2014 04:27 PM

Those nutty French :D
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1394666831.jpg

BGCarrera32 03-12-2014 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by creaturecat (Post 7955201)
Andy Hampsten is on a Huffy, but he isn't a kid. that's for sure.
SmileWavy

Some trivia: the Huffy team bikes were actually built by Serotta (US custom builder now known as Saratoga), with the exception of the one that Hampsten is on in that photo, taken at the '88 Giro, which was built by Land Shark (another US custom builder).

nikita76 03-13-2014 08:01 AM

BGCarrera32 Quote:
Originally Posted by creaturecat View Post
Andy Hampsten is on a Huffy, but he isn't a kid. that's for sure.


Some trivia: the Huffy team bikes were actually built by Serotta (US custom builder now known as Saratoga), with the exception of the one that Hampsten is on in that photo, taken at the '88 Giro, which was built by Land Shark (another US custom builder).
Yesterday 07:27 PM


Pretty standard practice: Lance Armstong's time trial bike in his first TdF was a Lightspeed tri bike painted blue with Trek decals.

Last year while "LightWeight" wheels have been crushin' it, many teams relabeled the wheels!!!

Laneco 03-13-2014 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BGCarrera32 (Post 7958958)
Some trivia: the Huffy team bikes were actually built by Serotta (US custom builder now known as Saratoga), with the exception of the one that Hampsten is on in that photo, taken at the '88 Giro, which was built by Land Shark (another US custom builder).

I was just going to post that! Land Shark is a builder here in the valley where we live. Absolutely great guy and an avid rider. Also, his wife rides as fast as hell....

We are pretty fortunate. There are at least 4 custom builders in our valley.

angela

intakexhaust 03-13-2014 08:57 AM

Wood bike. Demonstrates strength of handlebar. But wait, there's more! Take a peak at the car.....
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BGCarrera32 03-13-2014 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Laneco (Post 7959475)
I was just going to post that! Land Shark is a builder here in the valley where we live. Absolutely great guy and an avid rider. Also, his wife rides as fast as hell....

We are pretty fortunate. There are at least 4 custom builders in our valley.

angela

The custom builders do seem to be a dying breed with the advent of carbon splinter everything now...

intakexhaust 03-13-2014 10:39 AM

The true clubman
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1394732340.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1394732382.jpg

intakexhaust 03-13-2014 10:42 AM

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look 171 03-13-2014 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laneco (Post 7959475)
I was just going to post that! Land Shark is a builder here in the valley where we live. Absolutely great guy and an avid rider. Also, his wife rides as fast as hell....

We are pretty fortunate. There are at least 4 custom builders in our valley.

angela

you think he's fast now, back when he was a whippersnapper, he was even faster. We use to hang out at this guy's place after the ride and check out his frames with crazy paint schemes that were really not normally compared to single color frames of the time. I remember seeing the first one on our ride. It caught all kinds of attention. he does make some very nice frames. Come and think of it now, I would not expect less of a paint job from a guy who went to the Art Center. I know nothing about the Art Center back them.

CurtEgerer 03-13-2014 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikita76 (Post 7959397)
Some trivia: the Huffy team bikes were actually built by Serotta (US custom builder now known as Saratoga), with the exception of the one that Hampsten is on in that photo, taken at the '88 Giro, which was built by Land Shark (another US custom builder).
Yesterday 07:27 PM


Pretty standard practice: Lance Armstong's time trial bike in his first TdF was a Lightspeed tri bike painted blue with Trek decals.

One the midwest's best builders was/is Matt Assenmacher. He apprenticed with Bob Jackson in Leeds, England. I had a frame built in the late 70's. At that time, he was building bikes for Sue Novara who was the best woman sprinter in the US for many years. They were disguised as Schwinn Paramounts. I think there's still one hanging in his shop.




http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1394750635.jpg

Laneco 03-13-2014 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 7959795)
you think he's fast now, back when he was a whippersnapper, he was even faster. We use to hang out at this guy's place after the ride and check out his frames with crazy paint schemes that were really not normally compared to single color frames of the time. I remember seeing the first one on our ride. It caught all kinds of attention. he does make some very nice frames. Come and think of it now, I would not expect less of a paint job from a guy who went to the Art Center. I know nothing about the Art Center back them.

Dang - small world, isn't it? The worst person in the universe to draft off is his wife, jenny. She's about 95 pounds soaking wet and can climb like a cat with hot sake enema. Absolutely zero wind drag so you kill yourself keeping up with her speed wise, then it's your turn at the front and it feels like you already took a pull - LOL!

angela

CurtEgerer 03-13-2014 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Laneco (Post 7960200)
and can climb like a cat with hot sake enema.
angela

Bad visual, but it does sound fast! :D

URY914 03-13-2014 05:17 PM

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URY914 03-13-2014 05:18 PM

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BGCarrera32 03-13-2014 05:34 PM

LeMond - The official site of Greg LeMond

Greg and the Professor

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1394757246.jpg

CurtEgerer 03-14-2014 12:33 PM

After LeMond retired, he got into open-wheel racing with a couple of years of Formula Ford. He didn't have much success. I saw him race at MidOhio and have some pics somewhere. Here's a good interview from back in the 90's discussing car and bike racing, Lance Armstrong, etc. :

Once Was King

The Gitane-Renault-Elf days ...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1394825308.jpg

intakexhaust 03-14-2014 01:02 PM

^^^ Curt- Great interview and thanks for the link. Please post those pics.

CurtEgerer 03-14-2014 01:14 PM

Yeah, really cool to read an interview from nearly 20 years ago and his thoughts on the drug scene, etc. back then.

greglepore 03-14-2014 01:18 PM

Did a little research Curt-the Team Lemond trademark was registered here in 1987. Some bikes were built by Della Santa under that name. In fact, there's a beautiful one in "greg Lemond " livery, allegedly a team z bike from 90, on ebay now. No mention of the components, but the era seems right.

BGCarrera32 03-14-2014 06:39 PM

Met LeMond briefly twice at autograph signings back in the day after his Tour wins...while there was plenty of controversy later on regarding things he said (costing him LeMond frame manufacture by Trek before Armstrong ultimately admitted to doping) he is genuine and a good guy, someone I'd love to bump into again.

Also talked and rode *very* briefly with Sean Kelly. Fun stuff.

Here's a pic of my authentic 7 Eleven jersey worn by Tom Schuler, one of the original members of the team. It is mint.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1394847384.jpg

look 171 03-14-2014 09:21 PM

LeMond was / is our American hero who gave the Euro boys hell. Now riding with King Kelly, a true classics animal, is the stuff of legends. Care to tell me more about that and that jersey? Is that pre pro days? I remember reading about those guys going to Europe to ride pro like it was yesterday. I literally went home after (high) school waited for the mail to come just to read about it in the four page Velonews. It was usually about a month late with the European race results. That or wait for Winning Mag.

look 171 03-14-2014 09:25 PM

Curt, I think someone got excited about LeMond and decided to pantograph the name on the SR. SR was just coming to an end when LeMond started to make bikes. Who knows, he may have started a small batch production run. All in all, that's really cool to have and I bet its so rare that we wouldn't see another one out there.

BGCarrera32 03-14-2014 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 7962284)
LeMond was / is our American hero who gave the Euro boys hell. Now riding with King Kelly, a true classics animal, is the stuff of legends. Care to tell me more about that and that jersey? Is that pre pro days?

In 1997 there was the "Sean Kelly Tour"...as I recall he dropped in here as our local pro at the time, Joe Parkin, was one of the domestiques riding for Kelly on the PDM team (don't quote me on the exact team that's fuzzy). On a Friday morning there was a sizeable contingent of the local cyclists here in the Minneapolis area that were invited to roll out on 20-ish mile ride with him. There were about 150 riders, but the one thing I recall Sean doing was drifting around from the front of the bunch to the back and at least saying hello or giving a nod to everyone that was out on the ride. Pretty cool. That night there was a reception and question/answer panel and several of us got to talk to him and shake hands.

The 7-Eleven jersey was acquired by the uncle of a friend that owned a bike shop, said uncle lived in the Boulder area for a while and passed it on to me. I got the jersey around '89, and it has "Tom" written in ink up on the inside collar. Oddly enough, if you look at the majority of 7-Eleven images out there the guys are all wearing Descente manufactured jerseys. BUT- the photo below is right around '85 which if I recall is when the team came to fruition, and there is the Castelli mark. Schuler is dead center, with Davis Phinney on the left. I saw Davis race here in '88 or '89, he was a machine...



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1394861338.jpg

look 171 03-14-2014 11:02 PM

That must be cool riding and meeting Kelley. A few months ago, I went on a ride with Hincapie when he visited a shop pushing BMC bikes. He did just that, going slow talking with people. I had to spend 100 bucks for a BMC jersey to have him sign it. Come and think of it, you are correct, they were mostly Descents.

I love that photo. Funny I can ID 6 of those guys without thinking. Alexi Grewal said in an interview I read in a mag about 6 months ago when asked about today's cat 1s speed compared to the speed of the old days. He claims that are not too fast and it take some time to get them back. But when Phinney got away, there will be hell to pay and you just can't nail him back. We had Thurlow Rogers out here. Talk about a machine. They are at a different level entirely. he will ride us off his wheels from the front. If you were watching from the sideline, it looks like we just let him go.

intakexhaust 03-19-2014 08:42 PM

Lots of talk here of early Gitane riders... Fignon, LeMond and the 'Badger'. If anyone is interested, I'm thinking of selling an early 70's TDF (R-531 tubes). Original but been stashed and long forgotten. Some TLC and tubies are needed (I might have something good to pop on). Saddles are a personal thing and one would probably want their own so I would leave the axe hatchet on it. Although I might have a nice condition vintage leather Ideale around to complete the French theme. If anyone is interested, maybe in the next couple of days will drag the hag gypsy out and take some pics. Would rather sell it as it is without fussing with it, rubber, saddle, etc. as I've got enough other ongoing projects.

intakexhaust 03-20-2014 08:55 AM

Jacques Anquetil in the early 1960's rode Gitane but here he is in 1966 with Hutchinson and Ford sponsorship.
http://www.dewielersite.net/db2/wiel...%20Jacques.JPG

Racerbvd 03-20-2014 12:34 PM

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intakexhaust 03-21-2014 01:54 PM

Magnus von Braun bike when he and Werner surrendered to the US
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1395435120.jpg

look 171 03-21-2014 02:34 PM

forget the bikes, I want that Jeep.

CurtEgerer 03-21-2014 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by intakexhaust (Post 7970762)
Lots of talk here of early Gitane riders... Fignon, LeMond and the 'Badger'. If anyone is interested, I'm thinking of selling an early 70's TDF (R-531 tubes). Original but been stashed and long forgotten. Some TLC and tubies are needed (I might have something good to pop on). Saddles are a personal thing and one would probably want their own so I would leave the axe hatchet on it. Although I might have a nice condition vintage leather Ideale around to complete the French theme. If anyone is interested, maybe in the next couple of days will drag the hag gypsy out and take some pics. Would rather sell it as it is without fussing with it, rubber, saddle, etc. as I've got enough other ongoing projects.

Sounds like a pretty cool bike :cool: What size?

So to go along with the Team LeMond chainring, I just picked up an NOS 'Bernard Hinault' Edition Turbo saddle from Spain. Now I'd like to find something as a subtle tribute to Fignon to complete the trifecta, but I'm coming up completely empty on that one :confused:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1395451363.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1395451399.jpg

CurtEgerer 03-21-2014 06:48 PM

I guess I could wear his trademark Renault-Elf headband :rolleyes::cool:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1395452922.jpg

herr_oberst 03-21-2014 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurtEgerer (Post 7974183)
Now I'd like to find something as a subtle tribute to Fignon to complete the trifecta, but I'm coming up completely empty on that one

Grow a ponytail?


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