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speeder 11-30-2012 12:40 PM

Incredibly slow computer
 
Since crashing my usual Macbook, I've been using my old 17" PowerBook G4 as a temporary. It works fine except that it's incredibly slow. The only thing I do is web surf, eBay/Pelican/craiglist/facebook/news sites/banking/etc...

It has OS X 10.5.8, which I know is old but why would nit not work the way that it used to, with the same OS? I checked for updates and installed them all. When I'm typing this text right now, there is a 1-2 second delay between any keystroke and the text appearing on the screen. Same with any other command, fetching photos and the like.

Any quick-fixes I can try? TIA. :cool:

vash 11-30-2012 12:49 PM

with you wanting a Harley..you better get used to slow!

:D :D :D...

911pcars 11-30-2012 12:51 PM

Could be some garbage slowing it down or a fragmented hard drive or equivalent. Not an expert, but load the program, Disk Utility in the Utilities folder. Select the drive to inspect, then let it run. If it reveals some issues, follow the recommendations. If you have an original install disk, you can reload a fresh version of the OS without losing data.

May be a good time to upgrade. Today, Apple released the new lineup of iMacs.

Sherwood

stomachmonkey 11-30-2012 12:56 PM

OS X is pretty good at disk management so fragmentation is really not a huge issue.

Run Activity Monitor, see if you have a process hogging CPU cycles.

Anything steadily above 10%-20% could be the culprit.

speeder 11-30-2012 01:06 PM

OK, thanks. How do I do that?

Also, isn't there some deal where you shut it down and then restart with command key and "R" pressed at same time? I'm going from distant memory...

stomachmonkey 11-30-2012 01:08 PM

Activity Monitor is an app, should be in Applications->Utilities

Command+Option+P+R is the reset parameter RAM on boot key combo.

Hold them all on boot up and it'll reboot, I keep them held for at least 2 usually 3 reboots.

speeder 11-30-2012 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 7123680)
OS X is pretty good at disk management so fragmentation is really not a huge issue.

Run Activity Monitor, see if you have a process hogging CPU cycles.

Anything steadily above 10%-20% could be the culprit.

Thanks. I found A.M. and it shows Firefox using between 85-95% of all things! :eek::confused:

WTF?

stomachmonkey 11-30-2012 01:14 PM

Kill it.

One of the reasons I stopped using it, it's become a bit of a pig.

craigster59 11-30-2012 01:31 PM

Denis, I was running OS X 10.5.8 on my Macbook. Picked up an iPhone 5 and couldn't transfer my contacts, photos, etc. over because it does not support iTunes 10.7. Took it to the Genius Bar and they loaded Snow Leopard 10.6.8 for free.

Just tell them you have a new iPhone and need iTunes 10.7. They just started doing this upgrade, must have had a few people complaining that their new Apple products weren't being supported by a 4 year old machine.

speeder 11-30-2012 01:31 PM

Thanks, Scott. just switched to Safari after doing a couple of those reboots and it seems to be running fine now.

speeder 11-30-2012 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craigster59 (Post 7123741)
Denis, I was running OS X 10.5.8 on my Macbook. Picked up an iPhone 5 and couldn't transfer my contacts, photos, etc. over because it does not support iTunes 10.7. Took it to the Genius Bar and they loaded Snow Leopard 10.6.8 for free.

Just tell them you have a new iPhone and need iTunes 10.7. They just started doing this upgrade, must have had a few people complaining that their new Apple products weren't being supported by a 4 year old machine.

Thanks, I have an iPhone 4S and I'm pretty sure that it's the same thing. I.E., won't mate with this computer. :cool:

911pcars 11-30-2012 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 7123703)
Activity Monitor is an app, should be in Applications->Utilities

Command+Option+P+R is the reset parameter RAM on boot key combo.

Hold them all on boot up and it'll reboot, I keep them held for at least 2 usually 3 reboots.

I'm also running 10.5.8, but on a PowerPC Mac. Maybe it's an Intel thing. I don't see it in my directory.

Sherwood

speeder 11-30-2012 01:33 PM

Holy schit this old thing is running fast now, thanks SM!!

stomachmonkey 11-30-2012 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 7123747)
Holy schit this old thing is running fast now, thanks SM!!

:DSmileWavy

stomachmonkey 11-30-2012 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911pcars (Post 7123745)
I'm also running 10.5.8, but on a PowerPC Mac. Maybe it's an Intel thing. I don't see it in my directory.

Sherwood

Do a search for it.

Activity Monitor should be there somewhere. May have been moved accidentally.

911pcars 11-30-2012 01:46 PM

SM,
While you're on a roll, here's my symptom:

Computer intermittently goes to sleep on its own. Sometimes I can wake it by clicking the mouse or a key. Other times, have to reboot; sometimes multiple times to get the desktop to show and the cursor activated.

Any ideas besides time for a new one?

thanks,
Sherwood
Power Mac G5 Quad core, 2.5 Ghz (circa 2005)
OS 10.5.8

stomachmonkey 11-30-2012 01:52 PM

Sounds like a bad LCD inverter.

Do you have an external monitor that you can hook up to make sure it's really going to sleep and it's not just the LCD shutting off?

Inverter boards are cheap, ~$25-40 bucks on fleabay or one of the used Mac sales sites that also sell parts.

1/2 hour to swap out.

Have done a few, common problem on the last gen PPC laptops.

I have one acting as a media server in my downstairs entertainment room. Inverter is bad but does not matter since it's hooked to a 67 in TV screen.

911pcars 11-30-2012 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 7123781)
Sounds like a bad LCD inverter.

Do you have an external monitor that you can hook up to make sure it's really going to sleep and it's not just the LCD shutting off?

Inverter boards are cheap, ~$25-40 bucks on fleabay or one of the used Mac sales sites that also sell parts.

1/2 hour to swap out.

Have done a few, common problem on the last gen PPC laptops.

I have one acting as a media server in my downstairs entertainment room. Inverter is bad but does not matter since it's hooked to a 67 in TV screen.

It's a desktop, not a laptop. It's runs two monitors via the DVI connections. Both monitors go dark or freeze when the computer decides to "sleep" or freeze.

Is this easily fixable for a now $250 computer? The retail on this was $3000 back then (2nd owner).

stomachmonkey 11-30-2012 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911pcars (Post 7123805)
It's a desktop, not a laptop. It's runs two monitors via the DVI connections. Both monitors go dark or freeze when the computer decides to "sleep" or freeze.

Is this easily fixable for a now $250 computer? The retail on this was $3000 back then (2nd owner).

Which model is it specifically?

911pcars 11-30-2012 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 7123828)
Which model is it specifically?

Does the following help?

Late 2005 Power Mac G5, Quad core, 2.5 Ghz
Currently has (2) 750 Gb ATA HD
What are the primary differences between the "Late 2005" or "Dual Core" Power Mac G5 models? @ EveryMac.com

I forget the "street names"

Sherwood

stomachmonkey 11-30-2012 03:21 PM

Out at dinner right now

Have you tried setting it to not sleep.

If yes does it go to "sleep" anyway.

911pcars 11-30-2012 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 7123952)
Out at dinner right now

Have you tried setting it to not sleep.

If yes does it go to "sleep" anyway.

Thanks for the suggestion. Made the adjustments. Will see.

Sherwood

speeder 11-30-2012 05:37 PM

This board rocks.

stomachmonkey 11-30-2012 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911pcars (Post 7123963)
Thanks for the suggestion. Made the adjustments. Will see.

Sherwood

If it still goes to sleep, freezes or shuts down then check the fan and airflow, make sure it's not getting too hot.

911pcars 11-30-2012 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 7124354)
If it still goes to sleep, freezes or shuts down then check the fan and airflow, make sure it's not getting too hot.

After adjusting the sleep mode to "never", it still exhibits the same symptoms. Fan and air flow are fine. In fact, I've removed the side cover to provide max. air to the fan. I have previously run a status utility program that provides temp. readings in various areas of the computer. Seemed okay at the time. This system has a water-cooling feature, but if there were no abnormal temp. displays, I assume it's operating okay.

Any ideas? Bug in mother board?

Sherwood

stomachmonkey 12-01-2012 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911pcars (Post 7124559)

Any ideas? Bug in mother board?

Sherwood

Maybe, more likely RAM or the video card.

Recently had an ATI display similar behavior on start up.

Do you have a spare/second computer that you can set up remote access or VNC with?

If the displays go down on the Mac you can remote into it to see if the box is really sleeping or if the card shut off.

I have a couple of spare cards, if one works in your box I'll send out to you to test with.

Gimme a bit to look into it.

911pcars 12-01-2012 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 7125119)
Maybe, more likely RAM or the video card.

Recently had an ATI display similar behavior on start up.

Do you have a spare/second computer that you can set up remote access or VNC with?

If the displays go down on the Mac you can remote into it to see if the box is really sleeping or if the card shut off.

I have a couple of spare cards, if one works in your box I'll send out to you to test with.

Gimme a bit to look into it.

"Do you have a spare/second computer that you can set up remote access or VNC with? If the displays go down on the Mac you can remote into it to see if the box is really sleeping or if the card shut off."

I do (have a spare Mac I can use for this purpose). Can you explain how I perform the remote control?

I pulled half of the RAM (Two 1Gb DDR2 SDRAM) before. Will replace the installed set with these and retest.

Thanks for the Apple hand-holding.

stomachmonkey 12-01-2012 10:37 AM

K,

Go to System Preferences, hit Sharing, turn on Screen Sharing. Hit the Computer Setting s tab and check off VNC users may control screen with password, and enter a password.

If you want you can Allow Access for only your user account.

Close save changes

On the other computer, while in Finder, hit Command K, browse for the and select other machine and hit Share Screen.

Put in user/pass if needed and now you can control machine 1 from machine 2.

That's one of the ways I interface with my the laptop that I have hooked into one of my media centers.

VNC is great. I have one of my machines set up to be accessed from wherever.

Was on a 7 day cruise over Thanksgiving. Am at the Beach in St Thomas and started getting a barrage of automated system emails, problem with the configuration on one of our products.

Pulled up the VNC app on my iPhone, remoted into the box in my office, made some fixes and went back to my Pina Colada.

911pcars 12-01-2012 10:57 AM

Okay. Will try that.

Just to confirm. Once I remotely access no. 1 Mac via no. 2 Mac;

If I can access no. 1 files with no. 1 monitors OFF, then the video card is suspect.

If I cannot access no. 1 with no. 1 monitors OFF, then it's not the video card.

If I cannot access no. 1 with no. 1 monitors OFF and computer frozen, then ............

Those assumptions okay thus far?

Have Porsche stuff to attend to. Will attempt this later. Thanks. Just increased my Mac IQ by alot.

Sherwood

stomachmonkey 12-01-2012 11:20 AM

When you remote in you will get #1's dektop showing up on #2's screen.

If 1 is asleep then it will wake up and displays should light up.

If you get in and the displays don't light up suspect video card.

911pcars 12-01-2012 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 7125346)
When you remote in you will get #1's dektop showing up on #2's screen.

If 1 is asleep then it will wake up and displays should light up.

If you get in and the displays don't light up suspect video card.

Ok. Thanks for the details.


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