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89911 01-29-2013 07:25 PM

Shackleton, men were tougher back then.
 
Finished watching a show on Shackleton and his survival in the Antarctic for 17 months. I've come to the conclusion that men were tougher back then. Much tougher. It's not a huge assumption to make. Most tasks were labor intensive and you had to participate to survive. Today, you get lost in the woods for a few days and you are a warrior. Not sure where we are heading in the next hundred years. An amorphous lump sitting in front of screens and keyboards? Hopeful not:(

M.D. Holloway 01-29-2013 07:30 PM

Ya but would they be able to deal with The Jersey Shore, Starbucks ordering, navigating the tax code or being able to figure out how to use a remote? I think not...

legion 01-29-2013 07:31 PM

Civilization is a temporary state. Empires rise and fall. When the Romans stopped conquest and became more concerned with bread and circus, their fates were sealed.

I imagine that the reason that the population of Rome declined from around a million people just before the fall to around 35,000 in roughly 100 years was because many of the soft citizens could not cut it.

HardDrive 01-29-2013 07:32 PM

The sheep were more nervous back then.

onewhippedpuppy 01-29-2013 08:00 PM

Modern conveniences have made us soft. Office jobs have made us soft. The evolution of society towards being so touchy feely PC has made us soft. I often wonder if a catastrophic event set modern society back 200 years, who would survive? Would I be able to survive? It's interesting food for thought.

mikeesik 01-29-2013 08:12 PM

Yes.
Everyone was.

RWebb 01-29-2013 08:19 PM

there are quite a few people doing tough things today, including wilderness survival & etc.

onewhippedpuppy 01-29-2013 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 7239830)
there are quite a few people doing tough things today, including wilderness survival & etc.

True, but back then wilderness survival was a part of life. If you weren't able to support yourself off of the land, you died. It wasn't done as an extreme sport or TV show.

mikeesik 01-29-2013 08:27 PM

All you have to do is go to a Museum-say Machinery..from the 1910 onto the mid 60's .
The people were a different breed.
There can be no argument.

gsxrken 01-29-2013 08:31 PM

Dropping Testosterone levels are evidently a fact.

A Population-Level Decline in Serum Testosterone Levels in American Men

Quote:

Results: We observe a substantial age-independent decline in T that does not appear to be attributable to observed changes in explanatory factors, including health and lifestyle characteristics such as smoking and obesity. The estimated population-level declines are greater in magnitude than the cross-sectional declines in T typically associated with age.

Conclusions: These results indicate that recent years have seen a substantial, and as yet unrecognized, age-independent population-level decrease in T in American men, potentially attributable to birth cohort differences or to health or environmental effects not captured in observed data.

mikeesik 01-29-2013 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxrken (Post 7239850)
Dropping Testosterone levels are evidently a fact.

A Population-Level Decline in Serum Testosterone Levels in American Men

Quit flushing your MEDS down the toilet !!!

VINMAN 01-29-2013 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 7239830)
there are quite a few people doing tough things today, including wilderness survival & etc.

Those are few and far between. Nowadays, we are raising a generation of pussies.

mikeesik 01-29-2013 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by VINMAN (Post 7239870)
Those are few and far between. Nowadays, we are raising a generation of pussies.

Bingo-Pussification of the Boys for sure!!

john70t 01-29-2013 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxrken (Post 7239850)
Dropping Testosterone levels are evidently a fact.

BGH(estrogen) + antibiotics + ?.

aigel 01-29-2013 09:21 PM

With childhood death rates extremely high, becoming a man back then meant that you were tough as nails already, otherwise you would not have made it that far.

Organic milk and meat for me. Testosterone is sky high! That's why I hang out on the forum every night ... ;)

G

Ferraripete 01-29-2013 09:50 PM

indeed they were tougher!

Evans, Marv 01-29-2013 10:39 PM

If you don't think they were tougher "back then," just look at the old pictures and count how many fatties were in them.

look 171 01-29-2013 11:33 PM

I really think men are almost as tough now. Only difference is that if they had all the technology and comfort we have today, they would be pussies too. My AC in my cars do not get turn off once the temp reaches 78 degree. A corded drill motor? F that.

afterburn 549 01-29-2013 11:50 PM

Read the Book OMG !
These guys were tuff
Had integrity, loyalty ...Something evidently we are not teaching our Sons today........WE TEACH THE ez WAY OUT

wdfifteen 01-30-2013 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 7240050)
Had integrity, loyalty ...Something evidently we are not teaching our Sons today........WE TEACH THE ez WAY OUT

Weaseling out of things is what separates men from the animals. Except the weasel. - Homer Simpson


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