So, is everybody cool if they burned the cabin down without even trying to negotiate?
 

Is that how we want our authorities to deal with suspects who haven't had their day in court yet?

Regardless of prior alleged criminal acts for which one would deserve a "day in court", if a suspect took a hostage and exchanged gunfire with the authorities at the scene, I am fine with a no holds barred approach to freeing the hostage and forcing the suspect into the open. No one is forcing said suspect to remain in a burning building. I am certain there was a warrant for his arrest. If he does not submit to arrest, then force him out. There was nothing to "negotiate" here. He did not have a hostage at the time.

He had ample opportunities to have his day in court. People who desire their day in court don't arm themselves to the teeth and hole up in a cabin. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

The "suspect" determined the outcome by his actions...

Killing one of the cops and wounding another will have that effect.

I'm not OK with him burning with the cabin but what else could the cops do?

I'd be pretty pissed if I was the cabin owner.

Coulda been worse. They could have shot up two innocent women in a pick up truck without negotiating. Oh wait. . .

The LEO world gives special consideration to cop killers.
Yup, I be cool. :cool:

mixed feelings. my brother does this type of work. runs into buildings with armed thugs.

i'm not convinced the fire was on purpose. my brother would drive an armored vehicle into the building before torching the joint.

a drastic entry like that saves policeman's lives..i am all for it.

i dont watch the new very much. the information tends to be all over the place. my brother will get the real story later..and tell me. hopefully.

There some talk on the local radio about the cops violating his 5th amendment rights. I didn't get to hear the entire debate.

Due process is not optional and those cops who were hell-bent on killing that man are no better than he was.

not all bad guys go down easy.

Once he killed a cop - all bets are off wrt doing things the legal way.

Cop killers are a special type of criminal and don't deserve constitutional rights.

This is how it has always been done in our society.

Tradition is tradition after all.

Law enforcement has it's reputation to consider.

Dorner made them look real bad there for a while.

I think they did the right thing.

They certainly were justified in shooting back at him, since he initiated gunplay. But burning the cabin down? What was the urgency here? He had no hostage, the cabin was totally surrounded and in the middle of nowhere. He couldn't have had much food to last him very long. They could cut off power, gas and water to make him less comfortable. I hope the cabin owner and his insurance company sue the cops. I doubt any cop will face any punishment over any of this, even the ones who shot up the innocents. Cops are above the law, that's for sure.

As said before, he had his opportunity for a day in court, but waved that right when he shot at the police officers. I'm not happy he died in a horrible way in a house fire, but it does save the taxpayers millions of dollars to keep him in a supermax high security prison for the remaining years of his life.

$85,000 a year for supermax, times 40 years is $3.4M any way you look at it, plus court costs and lawyer fees.

I wonder what Sniper would have to say about all this? Well, no , I really don't.

news reports say fire was from tear gas canisters thrown in the house to get him to come out.

Suppose the local cops are on the look-out for a suspected cop killer and they mistake you for him. You didn't do it, but they think it was you.
So they fire a couple thousand rounds at you with no questions asked.
You still cool with it?

Uh huh. :rolleyes:

News reports are going to be based solely on the information given to them by the cops.