Pelican Parts Forums

Pelican Parts Forums (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/index.php)
-   Off Topic Discussions (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/forumdisplay.php?f=31)
-   -   demascus steel knives? (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?t=734875)

vash 02-18-2013 08:59 PM

demascus steel knives?
 
i want one. one handmade by a blacksmith. insanity?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361249856.jpg

figure i give up coffee and pack my lunch i could "mask" the cost of admission. anyone have a real hammered and folded knife? what's the story?

theFONZ 02-18-2013 09:06 PM

I would love a handmade Damascus knife also. You have to make sure it's handmade though. Some "knifemakers" use premade blanks to produce their knives.

It's on my "one of these days" list.

aigel 02-18-2013 09:19 PM

You want to make one yourself. Not just buy it. :)

G

aigel 02-18-2013 09:24 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/726865-damascus-steel-fans.html

And it is spelled dAmascus! :)

Damascus steel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

G

vash 02-18-2013 09:33 PM

Autine is John Neemans new company.

vash 02-18-2013 09:37 PM

for the record, the man makes a fantastic AXE. hehe.

aigel 02-18-2013 09:49 PM

LOL, Vash. How many axes do you own? You should start a "show me your axe" thread. Or did you? I have a few axes, but they are all work, no play.

Back to the Damascus. What I found interesting in the Wikipedia article is the fact that the actual Damascus art of sword making is lost. While current smiths make stuff that looks similar, it does not appear to hold up to the analysis, compared to samples of the originals. What a bummer.

G

rusnak 02-18-2013 09:56 PM

Tamahagane>Damascus. But for a regular "knife" you might prefer carbon steel, no?

6e0ff 02-19-2013 05:27 AM

You might start looking here if you have a good idea of what you want. Not all of the offerings are damascus, but a fair number are.


For Sale: Fixed Blades

BlueSkyJaunte 02-20-2013 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusnak (Post 7282208)
Tamahagane>Damascus. But for a regular "knife" you might prefer carbon steel, no?

Tamahagane arose as a result of the Japanese having to refine iron-bearing sand into steel. The "bloom" resulting from the refining process is folded repeatedly to homogenize the carbon content and various impurities as much as possible.

The resulting product is beautiful, but it is not "better". It's just high-layer forge-welded steel. The argument could be made that due to the extremely lengthy and manual process of making tamahagane, the risk of voids, bad welds, and inclusions is actually higher than in modern-made "Damascus" steel.

Anyway, vash, what KIND of knife are you looking for? Talking about wanting a damascus knife is like saying you want a red car. I have a few damascus knives, they run the gamut from a Case Tiny Trapper in a raindrop pattern to a full-size cowboy bowie in random damascus.

vash 02-20-2013 12:26 PM

i want the second knife down.

Tools > Hunters & Wildlife - AUTINETOOLS

Seahawk 02-20-2013 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vash (Post 7284918)
i want the second knife down.

Tools > Hunters & Wildlife - AUTINETOOLS

Can I get your wife's email address?

I am here to facilitate concepts, ideas and flow of information...Dr. Seahawk.

rusnak 02-20-2013 12:49 PM

hahahaha!!! I'll send her a cook book

WolfeMacleod 02-20-2013 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theFONZ (Post 7282156)
I would love a handmade Damascus knife also. You have to make sure it's handmade though. Some "knifemakers" use premade blanks to produce their knives.

It's on my "one of these days" list.

The lazy man's way to do it. Or by using a power hammer.

Vash, look for a PM..

BlueSkyJaunte 02-20-2013 01:03 PM

Looks like a basic all-around flat ground "three piece" knife that could serve camp, hunting, and utility duty.

I would say 4 bills is near the high end for such a knife.

While I'm not a knife expert, I will say I have never heard of this guy before. His knives LOOK fine, but do some research before you plunk down the cash.

Whoops, I also see he is in Latvia. That makes his prices, in my view, too high. The inconvenience of his location compared to yours (if you ever need customer service) combined with the shipping/customs issues, along with the currency and labor cost differentials make me think you should look elsewhere.

Bill Miller Custom Stag Hunter Damascus Blade | GPKNIVES.com
Bill Miller Custom Stag Hunter Damascus Blade | GPKNIVES.com
Damascus Model 14 Hunter-by--Klotzli Knives
Damascus Drop Point-by-George-Walker
Damascus Skinner-by-David-Roeder
Damascus Fixed Blade-by--Maserin
Model 3 Hunter-by-Jerry-McClure
Damascus Hunter-by-Robert-De Feo

Look around a lot.

pwd72s 02-20-2013 01:29 PM

Can't get much of a pool cue for those prices...so go for it, Vash...I'd suggest a drop point.

BlueSkyJaunte 02-20-2013 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 7285041)
Can't get much of a pool cue for those prices...so go for it, Vash...I'd suggest a drop point.

No, but you can whittle a damned good one. SmileWavy

scottmandue 02-20-2013 04:05 PM

Not very fancy, but I have one of these:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361404992.jpg

Chinese mass produced crap... but they sure are purdy and fun for chopping up stuff in the kitchen.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361405036.jpg

What can I say, I am a poor man with rich man taste...

scottmandue 02-20-2013 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueSkyJaunte (Post 7284999)
Looks like a basic all-around flat ground "three piece" knife that could serve camp, hunting, and utility duty.

I would say 4 bills is near the high end for such a knife.

While I'm not a knife expert, I will say I have never heard of this guy before. His knives LOOK fine, but do some research before you plunk down the cash.

Whoops, I also see he is in Latvia. That makes his prices, in my view, too high. The inconvenience of his location compared to yours (if you ever need customer service) combined with the shipping/customs issues, along with the currency and labor cost differentials make me think you should look elsewhere.

Bill Miller Custom Stag Hunter Damascus Blade | GPKNIVES.com
Bill Miller Custom Stag Hunter Damascus Blade | GPKNIVES.com
Damascus Model 14 Hunter-by--Klotzli Knives
Damascus Drop Point-by-George-Walker
Damascus Skinner-by-David-Roeder
Damascus Fixed Blade-by--Maserin
Model 3 Hunter-by-Jerry-McClure
Damascus Hunter-by-Robert-De Feo

Look around a lot.

Oh man... you are killing me!!!!:eek:

Bookmarked the GPKNIFES site... maybe for Christmas (fingers crossed)

rusnak 02-20-2013 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueSkyJaunte (Post 7284877)
Tamahagane arose as a result of the Japanese having to refine iron-bearing sand into steel. The "bloom" resulting from the refining process is folded repeatedly to homogenize the carbon content and various impurities as much as possible.

The resulting product is beautiful, but it is not "better". It's just high-layer forge-welded steel. The argument could be made that due to the extremely lengthy and manual process of making tamahagane, the risk of voids, bad welds, and inclusions is actually higher than in modern-made "Damascus" steel.

That is actually highly inaccurate.

Tamahagane is the product of tens of tons of iron ore that is smelted into a few pounds of refined steel. The forging process removes any remaining impurities. There are 5,000 layers of steel that are folded into a blade less than a quarter inch thick. Any "voids" or "bad welds" simply do not exist.

Here is an interesting video about the process of making Tamahagane, and then forging it into a sword.:NOVA | Secrets of the Samurai Sword


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:26 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website


DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.