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lane912 02-27-2013 11:27 AM

drivers on the phone-
 
it is illegal in Oregon to use your phone while operating a vehicle. that said it has made no change in personal habits as I can tell.
the other day I had enough, cut off by another person on their phone.

had the idea of getting a "phone jamming device " so I could create a "safe" zone around me. but alas, the FCC does not allow the manufacture, sale, or possession of such devices-


ideas?

look 171 02-27-2013 11:30 AM

Yeah, they will just keep screwing with their phone trying to fine out what's wrong with it, near you.

I know how you feel. A young lady ran a complete red and nailed me head on with my little kid in the car. She was on the phone.

lane912 02-27-2013 11:43 AM

because it is illegal in Oregon, could I sue them for negligent use of a motor vehicle and use their phone bill as evidence against them?

pwd72s 02-27-2013 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by lane912 (Post 7299300)
it is illegal in Oregon to use your phone while operating a vehicle. that said it has made no change in personal habits as I can tell.
the other day I had enough, cut off by another person on their phone.

had the idea of getting a "phone jamming device " so I could create a "safe" zone around me. but alas, the FCC does not allow the manufacture, sale, or possession of such devices-


ideas?

Funny story...happened in your area. A buddy's son is a detective, drives a plain car. One day, a guy in a lifted truck, chatting on the phone, cut Andy off. At the next light, Andy lowered his window, told the guy he'd been cut off, asked him to turn off his phone and drive. The guy flipped Andy the bird, told him to flock off that he'd drive as he saw fit. Andy dropped behind, turned on his lights...guy refused to stop. Andy called for marked car & uniform. So...attempting to elude, careless driving, AND cell phone ticket. Sometimes people really do deserve what they get, huh?

Tobra 02-27-2013 11:45 AM

Attempting to elude, hah, that is not going to fly.
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Originally Posted by lane912 (Post 7299341)
because it is illegal in Oregon, could I sue them for negligent use of a motor vehicle and use their phone bill as evidence against them?

What are your damages?

lane912 02-27-2013 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 7299356)
Attempting to elude, hah, that is not going to fly.

What are your damages?

sorry-
If I was involved in a accident caused by a driver that was using their phone while driving-

Rick Lee 02-27-2013 11:48 AM

I wish using a phone while driving were punished exactly the same as a DUI. At least most drunk drivers think they're ok to drive. 100% of cell phone users know they're on the phone while driving.

You can buy cell phone jammers online for reasonable money. I'd love to have one in my bike tank bag. But getting caught would probably be expensive.

Aragorn 02-27-2013 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lane912 (Post 7299300)
it is illegal in Oregon to use your phone while operating a vehicle. that said it has made no change in personal habits as I can tell.
the other day I had enough, cut off by another person on their phone.

had the idea of getting a "phone jamming device " so I could create a "safe" zone around me. but alas, the FCC does not allow the manufacture, sale, or possession of such devices-


ideas?

I've got this device attached to my steering wheel that makes a loud audible noise when I press it. That combined with waving one 5th of my hand usually gets the point across...:D

lane912 02-27-2013 11:52 AM

FCC Cracks Down on Cell Phone 'Jammers' - US News and World Report

The FCC has noticed an increasing number of people selling "jammers"—devices that can block cell phone calls, text messages, Wi-Fi networks, and GPS systems—and could potentially be used to cause havoc in public spaces.

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The small, battery-powered devices can be used to create "dead zones" within a small area, usually 30 feet or so, and have been used by movie theaters, restaurants, and schools to keep people off their cell phones. But they also cut off 911 calls, can disrupt navigation near airports, and have been used near police stations to interrupt radio communications. Officials at the FCC say they've noticed an increasing number of jammers, which are banned by federal law, coming into the country. Many cheaper versions, which sell for as little as $25, are imported from Asia, according to the agency..

Selling, advertising, using, or importing jammers are illegal acts, according to the Communications Act of 1934, which bans blocking radio communications in public.

Earlier this week, the FCC issued citations to eight people and companies advertising jammers on Craigslist.

The FCC said jammers were advertised on the site in Orlando, Philadelphia, Austin, Mississippi, Charlotte, N.C., Washington, D.C., Cincinnati, and Corpus Christi, Texas. Officials say they don't believe the cases are connected.

"Merely posting a signal jammer ad on sites like Craigslist.org violates federal law. Signal jammers are contraband for a reason," Michele Ellison, the FCC's enforcement bureau chief, said in a statement. "One person's moment of peace or privacy could very well endanger the safety and wellbeing of others."

According to the citations, most sellers advertised jammers as a way of to have an "undisturbed nap" on a bus, force a quiet classroom, or keep your area "annoyance free," without alluding to the potential for more nefarious uses of the device.

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"We are increasingly concerned that individual consumers who operate jamming devices do not appear to understand the potentially grave consequences of using a jammer," one of the citations reads. "Instead, these operators incorrectly assume that their illegal operation is justified by personal convenience or should otherwise be excused."

But at least one seller seemed to know jammers were contraband, the FCC says.

Keith Grabowski allegedly advertised a "cell phone jammer, wifi jammer" on the Philadelphia Craigslist for $300. In the ad, he says "because of the nature of this item, few details are given out," the jammer "is no toy" and "I just want to get rid of it as fast as possible."

"The nature of his ad suggests that Mr. Grabowski was aware of the sensitive, and/or illegal nature of the device he was offering for sale on Craigslist," his citation says.

People issued citations will have 15 days to remove their ad from the website and give the FCC information about where they purchased the jammers and who they sold them to. Merely advertising a jammer for sale could carry a fine of more than $100,000.

The FCC has set up a "Jammer Tip Line" for people to let the bureau know about people who may be selling or using a jammer.

"We intend to take increasingly aggressive enforcement action against violators," Ellison said. "If we catch you selling or operating a jammer, it's going to cost you."

Christien 02-27-2013 11:52 AM

Around here they banned any use of handheld devices whatsoever a few years ago. About a year after the ban took effect, the dirty secret came out that minor accidents attributed to cell phone usage went UP. Seems that people were now holding their phone under the dash to send and read text messages while driving, so the cops won't see them, and their eyes were further from the road.

Did they repeal the law in the interest of public safety? Yeah, right. Not when it generates 150 bones per ticket. :rolleyes:

lane912 02-27-2013 12:13 PM

oregon is thinking of rasing the fine from about $250USD to 2kUSD as a deterant-

vash 02-27-2013 12:14 PM

i dont think talking on the phone while driving is all that challenging. i've had some engaging conversations with the passenger while driving..same difference to me.

i dont do it, cuz it is illegal. well, not hands free.

for me, it is the DIALING that is dangerous. and texting is downright insane.

i've seen people do other things while driving. painting nails, putting on makeup..eating. i watched this one guy eat a burger. the wrapper would block his vision while he was taking a bite. i moved way over.

RWebb 02-27-2013 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lane912 (Post 7299341)
because it is illegal in Oregon, could I sue them for negligent use of a motor vehicle and use their phone bill as evidence against them?

Yes, you can. And cell co.s keep records longer than landline co.s do.

A jammer can be bought in Europe and then used illegally in the US.

You can get big jammers to use for your whale killing exploits also. However, be careful about mixing the whale sushi with raw milk.

Jim Richards 02-27-2013 02:08 PM

I'm so excited to see more people give up talking on the phone and instead taking up texting and web surfing. Talking is so 20th Century.

apriliaguy 02-27-2013 02:19 PM

If you don't think driving while talking on a phone or to passengers is not dangerous you need to watch the mythbusters episode where they busted that myth. A human being cannot focus on two activities at once not 100 % and its just going to get worse with all the touch screen doohickeys they are adding to vehicles. Ha I rolled my window down at a cop yesterday at a stop light. He was texting. Should of took a pic.

bell 02-27-2013 02:26 PM

2 words.......train horns.......

Noah930 02-27-2013 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 7299414)
i dont think talking on the phone while driving is all that challenging. i've had some engaging conversations with the passenger while driving..same difference to me.

Agree. For certain talking on a cell phone detracts a bit from the attention you can appropriate to driving. But not necessarily any significantly more than when talking to a passenger in the car. For some drivers, they've got enough driving skill in reserve to manage both simultaneously. But for a lot others, they don't. After all, we have such low expectations of driving skill that most people just develop their skillset to the bare minimum.

Distracted driving is distracted driving. Whether it's a cell phone, or the radio, or a cigarette, or a ham sandwich. I live in a state where it's illegal to drive with cell in hand. I frequently visit a state where it is not illegal to do so. And I don't notice much of a difference in driving skill (though people in the other state are certainly much meaner). If you're a crappy driver, you're going to be distracted by whatever vice you choose. But I think if we start using mobile jammers, those people already distracted by their cell phones are going to be even more so when they suddenly drop a call mid-sentence.

Noah930 02-27-2013 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by apriliaguy (Post 7299630)
Ha I rolled my window down at a cop yesterday at a stop light. He was texting. Should of took a pic.

Good thing you didn't. Otherwise you'd likely be posting to us today about some bullschit ticket you just got yesterday. Sometimes it's best not to poke the anthill.

biosurfer1 02-27-2013 02:32 PM

While the jammers would be a nice solution, just imagine you get caught using one and they find out an officer didn't get an emergency call because of it and someone got hurt/died...all of a sudden its all on you.

2porscheguy 02-27-2013 02:35 PM

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