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M.D. Holloway 05-10-2013 07:24 AM

Devil in Ohio...
 
Not sure you get more evil than that beast...

Rick Lee 05-10-2013 07:39 AM

Read up on the one in Amstetten, Austria a few years back.

Jferr006 05-10-2013 07:48 AM

...and yet people wonder why us parents are paranoid.

Jim Bremner 05-10-2013 08:13 AM

I'm ok with death by derma abrasion for him.



Or to have everything that he did to the three done back to him in prison.

Jferr006 05-10-2013 08:15 AM

I hear fellow prisoners handle child predators in their own special way.

john70t 05-10-2013 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Bremner (Post 7434195)
Or to have everything that he did to the three done back to him in prison.

Disagree. Reform back to a good human status and a potential productive member of society, or kill in limited extreme cases.

Why waste $ on torture unless you're stoning in in Times Square?
Others by policy have done more damage to humanity.

crustychief 05-10-2013 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by john70t (Post 7434209)
Disagree. Reform back to a good human status and a potential productive member of society, or kill in limited extreme cases.

Why waste $ on torture unless you're stoning in in Times Square?
Others by policy have done more damage to humanity.

Was that supposed to be green font?

M.D. Holloway 05-10-2013 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by john70t (Post 7434209)
Disagree. Reform back to a good human status and a potential productive member of society, or kill in limited extreme cases.

Why waste $ on torture unless you're stoning in in Times Square?
Others by policy have done more damage to humanity.

ugh...hmmm....ugh...wow, I have nothing to say to that...

Jferr006 05-10-2013 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by crustychief (Post 7434211)
Was that supposed to be green font?

I hope so.

fast_e_man 05-10-2013 08:42 AM

I'd cut off his nuts, then let him mingle with the prison population. That should lessen the chances he would enjoy his interactions with other inmates.

john70t 05-10-2013 08:58 AM

I'll gladly further this in parf.
A witchhunt is socially satisfying and a good bonding experience, but not necessarily morally or economically correct.

Jferr006 05-10-2013 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by john70t (Post 7434279)
I'll gladly further this in parf.
A witchhunt is socially satisfying and a good bonding experience, but not necessarily morally or economically correct.

Some people are wired wrong and are not capable of being reformed.That's why they act out of impulse and do these horrible which because they lack the abiliyt to control themselves and said impulses. Saying that is about as rational and demanding as the so-called witch hunt.

Let him rot and get raped 6 ways from Sunday in prison by men. Seems fair to me.

Jim Bremner 05-10-2013 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jferr006 (Post 7434295)
Some people are wired wrong and are not capable of being reformed.That's why they act out of impulse and do these horrible which because they lack the abilit to control themselves and said impulses. Saying that is about as rational as demanding as the so-called witch hunt.

Let him rot and get raped 6 ways from Sunday in prison by men. Seems fair to me.

+1 Former student of administration of justice. There is nothing that can be done to reform in to a decent man.

A peaceful death for him is unjust.

GH85Carrera 05-10-2013 09:14 AM

Put him a cell with the meanest rapist in prison. Leave him until dead. Return body to family. Done.

There are many folks that are far worse than him. Jeffery Dalmer comes to mind.

HardDrive 05-10-2013 09:27 AM

Reform him. As in reform his neck with a piece of rope and the branch of a tall oak tree.

john70t 05-10-2013 09:36 AM

So the choices are:
1). Jail and reform, then release back into society.
2). Destroy immediately as non-reformable.
3). Jail and torture under inhumane conditions, then release back into society.

What catagory does this individual fall under?
Given the extent of his dual methodology, I'd think #2, FWIW.

But you two are arguing #3.
That removes determination of punishment from the victim, and gives it to the state. The victim achieves nothing, except maybe having his/her damaging experience taken away by a complex and expensive political system beyond his/her control but knowing "something is being done".

Moreover, a harsh prison environment creates predators and prey.
a). The predators get stronger and are well fed until released back into society. They make babies and teach friends in the meantime. Do you still like that system?
b). The prey get damaged and become useless. Or self-fufill option#2. Or learn the methods of the predators. They could be your children arrested for a little pot.
c). Meanwhile, the US prison system is the largest and most expensive per capita. It produces the next generation of criminals or broken worthless people.

flipper35 05-10-2013 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 7434325)
Put him a cell with the meanest rapist in prison. Leave him until dead. Return body to family. Done.

There are many folks that are far worse than him. Jeffery Dalmer comes to mind.

I wouldn't bother to return the body. Dump it in the trash. It's biodegradable. Same with the Newtown shooter and Boston bombers. I don't think the dead derves any respect in those cases.

Jferr006 05-10-2013 09:38 AM

You are wrong, sir.
I am arguing Option 4: option 3 + life in prison. Some things are worth the expense. ;)

Jferr006 05-10-2013 09:44 AM

oh, and a little pot won't get you hard time in a maximum security prison.

Sounds like he has a good home with you at your house when he's "reformed". Let me know how that works out around the kids, grandkids, neighbor kid,s etc.

wdfifteen 05-10-2013 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jferr006 (Post 7434295)
Some people are wired wrong and are not capable of being reformed.That's why they act out of impulse and do these horrible which because they lack the abiliyt to control themselves and said impulses.

I agree. The guy's actions indicate some level of mental disorder and he's probably not a candidate for rehabilitation. Hard to believe a sane, normal person would think it was OK, or even possible, to do something like this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jferr006 (Post 7434295)
Let him rot and get raped 6 ways from Sunday in prison by men. Seems fair to me.

I'm not sure what to attribute this sentiment to.


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