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BK911 09-13-2013 10:05 AM

slide fire
 
Anybody see this yet?

Slide FireŽ - Superior Performance Gun Stocks

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Tried to post the video, if it doesnt work check out the link.

HardDrive 09-13-2013 10:25 AM

It should be illegal as far as I'm concerned.

Rikao4 09-13-2013 10:45 AM

available for AR-15..
lefty's as well..
not sure about AK's.
loads of fun without the stamp & paperwork for auto...

Rika

cashflyer 09-13-2013 11:15 AM

Bump-fire devices and techniques have been around a long time.
Also, cranks that fit against the trigger were popular for a while.

This is just another one of those type devices - but it looks like a better made product. This just means that the ATF will change the definition of "machine gun" like they did in 1983.

New rifle mimics machine gun's rapid fire -- and it's legal - Sep. 12, 2013

http://www.rapidfiretriggers.com/bmf-ta.jpg

http://www.fastfire.biz/Triggers/hell-storm.jpg

This one was legal, and then later determined to be illegal:
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b1...Image001-4.jpg

BlueSkyJaunte 09-13-2013 12:38 PM

Yes, they've been around for a while. Selling like hotcakes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 7654706)
It should be illegal as far as I'm concerned.

Of course it should. God forbid people be allowed to have fun. Can't be having that.

Oh, and the BATFE disagrees with you.

John Rogers 09-13-2013 04:00 PM

Periodically there will be one at our range and they sure do rip though a magazine of ammo! All the people I have see with them can not hit the target backer at 50 yards once it starts off but they are faster than a full auto M4.

Brando 09-13-2013 04:15 PM

Makes me want to buy another 10/22! Pretty darn cool.

Racerbvd 09-13-2013 08:41 PM

Looks like a good Christmas present for myself..

Nostril Cheese 09-13-2013 09:52 PM

So what do you do with something like this? Write stuff in walls?

weseeeee 09-15-2013 12:49 PM

I've seen the AR-15 version on a range. It worked okay at times and not so good at other times. I enjoy a well placed shot involving sight alignment and trigger control. The slide system doesn't interest me. However I was issued a full auto for over 20 years so I've had plenty of time to experience rapid fire weapons. People who have never fired full auto would probably get a kick out of this system until they find out a mag of 30 rounds last only a few seconds.

Gogar 09-15-2013 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nostril Cheese (Post 7655635)
So what do you do with something like this?


Empty your wallet at a rapid pace.

KaptKaos 09-15-2013 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brando (Post 7655259)
Makes me want to buy another 10/22! Pretty darn cool.

Pretty sure its illegal here Brando. We don't get the fun toys.

But, a little JB Weld on your SKS firing pin, and we get the same effect and it only costs 10 cents. :eek:

John Rogers 09-15-2013 06:26 PM

When I first saw one of these I asked out gun club president who has been a FFL for many, many years about them and he said they are in fact legal in CA. Of course they may have been added to one of the many gun bills running around in Sacrdemento now?

emcon5 09-15-2013 08:03 PM

When the Al-Qaeda hordes invade your shopping mall, and you need to lay down suppressive fire to take back the food court, this is perfect accessory for the Tactical Shopping Structure Ninjutsu Specialist and Security OperatorŽ.

aigel 09-15-2013 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john rogers (Post 7658050)
When I first saw one of these I asked out gun club president who has been a FFL for many, many years about them and he said they are in fact legal in CA. Of course they may have been added to one of the many gun bills running around in Sacrdemento now?

Sure, you'll be done in a second with a 10 round magazine though. ;)

G

emcon5 09-15-2013 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john rogers (Post 7658050)
When I first saw one of these I asked out gun club president who has been a FFL for many, many years about them and he said they are in fact legal in CA. Of course they may have been added to one of the many gun bills running around in Sacrdemento now?

Oh, and your gun club president is wrong.

Quote:

12020 PC.
(a) Any person in this state who does any of the following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison:
(1) Manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, lends, or possesses any ... {snip}..., any multiburst trigger activator,
...{snip}....

(c)
(23) As used in this section, a "multiburst trigger activator" means one of the following devices:
(A) A device designed or redesigned to be attached to a semiautomatic firearm which allows the firearm to discharge two or more shots in a burst by activating the device.

(B) A manual or power-driven trigger activating device constructed and designed so that when attached to a semiautomatic firearm it increases the rate of fire of that firearm.

Rick Lee 09-15-2013 08:34 PM

I have the crank fire one, works great on the 10/22, haven't tried with an AR yet. The Accelerator is now illegal. BATF changed their minds on it and owners were not grandfathered. I would like to get one of the slide fire stocks, but they are $300ish and they will not be grandfathered when BATF decides to make them illegal. Anyway, it's cheaper to learn how to bump fire your AR with a rubber band and you can get rid of that evidence pretty easily.

John Rogers 09-16-2013 06:50 AM

The key word there is trigger as the ones I looked at had no interaction mechanically with the trigger? He notes that it is sold as an adjustable stock and the user makes the change so the stock can slide. The first design had an assist spring and the feds did not like that so the design was modified to be "just a stock".

emcon5 09-16-2013 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john rogers (Post 7658576)
The key word there is trigger as the ones I looked at had no interaction mechanically with the trigger? He notes that it is sold as an adjustable stock and the user makes the change so the stock can slide. The first design had an assist spring and the feds did not like that so the design was modified to be "just a stock".

By all means, feel free to be the test case for a poorly written, broad definition law.

krystar 09-16-2013 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaptKaos (Post 7657683)
Pretty sure its illegal here Brando. We don't get the fun toys.

But, a little JB Weld on your SKS firing pin, and we get the same effect and it only costs 10 cents. :eek:

pretty sure a rubber band on my AK is cheaper than 10 cents :)


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