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Shaun @ Tru6 09-16-2013 05:23 AM

well said!

asphaltgambler 09-16-2013 05:40 AM

Wonder how bad her reaction would have been if you were driving a well set-up 944? Oh!

Porsche-O-Phile 09-16-2013 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nostril Cheese (Post 7657629)
Nothing worse than a woman with a sense of entitlement..

Actually yes there is - a woman with a sense of entitlement for no reason other than she's a woman. And we as a society indulge it - Google "alimony".

IMHO if you want equality, fine. Go stand on your own two feet and succeed or fail on your own merits or lack thereof. THAT'S equality.

GH85Carrera 09-16-2013 05:43 AM

One of the phrases I heard about 30 years ago is "You are exactly where you decided to be." You and everyone else have made decisions every single hour and all day long that directly affect your life. That really starts about age two. If you make bad decisions on a regular basis your life will suck.

Some decisions are major early in life and impossible to reverse. If you are 15 and decide to have sex and risk parenthood you have made a major decision that will affect the rest of your life.

Obviously serious health issues that are not lifestyle based are a wild-card, but for the vast majority of reasonably healthy people it is a valid phrase.

Shaun @ Tru6 09-16-2013 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asphaltgambler (Post 7658466)
Wonder how bad her reaction would have been if you were driving a well set-up 944? Oh!

pity? :D

speeder 09-16-2013 05:56 AM

The heartland is a strange place.

sammyg2 09-16-2013 05:59 AM

For many it is human nature to resent someone who is more successful.
To feel jealousy, envy, anger, even though people of character tend to stifle these immature irrational feelings.
It's as if some people feel that if someone else has something, they can't have it.
As if it was taken from them somehow.

Others tend to celebrate the success of others, to admire it, appreciate it, to strive to match that success and use successful people as a role model.

Can't say much more about those who can't control these negative feelings without PARFing this all up.

Shaun @ Tru6 09-16-2013 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 7658491)
For many it is human nature to resent someone who is more successful.
To feel jealousy, envy, anger, even though people of character tend to stifle these immature irrational feelings.
It's as if some people feel that if someone else has something, they can't have it.
As if it was taken from them somehow.

Others tend to celebrate the success of others, to admire it, appreciate it, to strive to match that success and use successful people as a role model.

Can't say much more about those who can't control these negative feelings without PARFing this all up.

Oh sweet sweet irony!

sc_rufctr 09-16-2013 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TGTIW (Post 7658335)
So going back and doing a few donuts on her front lawn is out of the question?

Walk past with a squeeze bottle full of nasty weed killer and paint "the bird" on her lawn.

RANDY P 09-16-2013 06:09 AM

I'll bet if you walked into their house, probably every type of big screen TV, DVDs, ipods, PS3, all that crap......

That's where the $$$ goes.

rjp

RANDY P 09-16-2013 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz (Post 7657880)
Ironically.......her gesture demonstrates what SHE considers important in life.......money.

Clueless.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 7658491)
For many it is human nature to resent someone who is more successful.
To feel jealousy, envy, anger, even though people of character tend to stifle these immature irrational feelings.
It's as if some people feel that if someone else has something, they can't have it.
As if it was taken from them somehow.

Others tend to celebrate the success of others, to admire it, appreciate it, to strive to match that success and use successful people as a role model.

Can't say much more about those who can't control these negative feelings without PARFing this all up.

Yep, and punish the successful, either irrationally laugh at their misfortune or tax them into oblivion.

Getting visibly worked up over other people's material things is petty as hell, then again so is obvious consumption- like double parking your brand new car...

rjp

tweezers74 09-16-2013 06:37 AM

Just an observation... Some of you seem just as angry and resentful as that woman. Just saying. Ironic you guys are judging her and some of you are exhibiting the same type of behavior in a different way.

Success and happiness is as individual as what ice cream flavor you prefer. Don't assume that everyone is envious of your car, money, wealth. This woman obviously defined her success and happiness by money. And those of you that have defined her as an idiot, yes, she is. But I think she's an idiot because if she defines her level of success by what the guy two blocks from her is driving, she will never be happy no matter what she is driving. And a ten minute conversation on her front lawn isn't going to change her philosophy on life. Good if he did that to make himself better but yeah, don't think that event changed her life any.

And I wholeheartedly believe in Glen's post. You are exactly what you decide to be. The only difference between people who fail and people who don't is that the people who succeed don't accept failure. They see it as a bump in the road. Something to overcome. Something to improve upon. Something to try again. Something you need to experience before you hit the jackpot. Basically they don't give up. They don't stop. They don't flip the bird to the guy driving the Porsche down the street. They keep their eye on THEIR prize. Not somebody else's.

And Porsche-o-phile, a woman must have scorned you good because every time an opportunity arises, you really let it be known that women take advantage of men and think their husband's money is their entitlement. Glen's little saying is true the other way around too. Other people are exactly what you think they are. If all you see are gold diggers, well, that's exactly what you will find. Partially self-fulfilling prophecy on their part and partially pre-conceived ideas on your part. I really hope you have met or will meet a woman that can change your mind that not all women are like that. And I mean that not in a sarcastic or mean way. I mean it in a way where I hope you can find happiness where you don't feel like that anymore. :)

RANDY P 09-16-2013 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tweezers74 (Post 7658556)
Just an observation... Some of you seem just as angry and resentful as that woman. Just saying. Ironic you guys are judging her and some of you are exhibiting the same type of behavior in a different way.

One is provoked, the other isn't. Voicing feedback on someone's odd situation isn't exhibiting anger, it's sharing an opinion.

There are certain absolutes, unprovoked lashing out at others for just having more crosses that line.

rjp

tweezers74 09-16-2013 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RANDY P (Post 7658559)
One is provoked, the other isn't. Voicing feedback on someone's odd situation isn't exhibiting anger, it's sharing an opinion.

True.

porsche4life 09-16-2013 07:07 AM

Quote:

Wonder how bad her reaction would have been if you were driving a well set-up 944? Oh!
Fwiw... I was at the car wash one day and could hear the PWT in the beater ford nearby talking about me being the spoiled little rich prick washing daddy's car...

I could have done as wayne did and confront them about, and all I would have accomplished is wasting some ofy time. They wouldn't have believed me anyways if I told them how I worked my ass off to get that car, and then to make it that nice...


Or I could just go on with my day, and go enjoy what I have, and no worry about what other people think...


Guess what I did? It's just not worth it.

RANDY P 09-16-2013 07:22 AM

Should've asked him what he's doing at a car wash with a beat Ford?

LOL

rjp

diverdan 09-16-2013 09:27 AM

Most of us have done things of which we are not proud and I don't know anybody who hasn't had a bad day. I can't condone waving the bird either. However, the woman did apologize and stated that he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Furthermore, she was honest with her feelings at the time. Hopefully, the waves in the future will be more friendly. Good luck.

Diverdan

sammyg2 09-16-2013 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 7658496)
Oh sweet sweet irony!

What, do you owe me money or something?

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Nostril Cheese 09-16-2013 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 7658468)
Actually yes there is - a woman with a sense of entitlement for no reason other than she's a woman. And we as a society indulge it - Google "alimony".

IMHO if you want equality, fine. Go stand on your own two feet and succeed or fail on your own merits or lack thereof. THAT'S equality.

Geez, lighten up Francis. :D

I married a woman who works hard, loves cars, music and considers diamonds to be cutting tools. Not sure what you did wrong.

RWebb 09-16-2013 11:13 AM

I have to wonder if this interesting story from the OP is real??

Could be just a social experiment type post... it sure worked

RWebb 09-16-2013 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 7658488)
The heartland is a strange place.


Here in the PNW, I've never had anyone diss or vandalize my cars. I get thumbs up on the 911s from skaters, homeless guys, bicyclists, motorbikers, guys in trucks, construction workers... just to recall a few.


When I parked my Silver Boxster S on the street, someone put a flower on the windshield.

epbrown 09-16-2013 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 7658590)
Fwiw... I was at the car wash one day and could hear the PWT in the beater ford nearby talking about me being the spoiled little rich prick washing daddy's car...

I could have done as wayne did and confront them about, and all I would have accomplished is wasting some ofy time. They wouldn't have believed me anyways if I told them how I worked my ass off to get that car, and then to make it that nice...

The kicker about this is the people don't really care about your possessions, just the badge, the image it conveys. If someone really liked the 944, the barest research would reveal they could likely have one - they don't want one, they just want to be upset you've got one.

A kid at a taco stand was raving about my CBR600RR parked outside last week, and wishing he could get one, adding "must be nice!"). I pointed out mine's a 2006, pretty easy to find for five grand or so, and really not much different/faster than the 2003/4s you can find for only two or three grand (though in your 20s the insurance is about as much). Heck, if you just want to start riding, you can find stuff for a few hundred bucks. His eyes sort of glazed over a minute into the conversation - he'd rather envy people riding than figure out how to get a bike himself.

asphaltgambler 09-16-2013 11:32 AM

My ex-business partner said the same (pretty much) thing to me simultaneously while discussing why he wasn't going to pay my yearly % of the profits...............................

After much discussion, it was clear he intended not to honor the contract we had, offered up 'doctored' P&L statement and became angrier as we talked. I kept my cool as I had an idea that this was going to happen.

In the end he became so agitated that he lost his temper and said the reason he wasn't paying me because I had a nice house, hotrods, Porsche and motorcycles and (get this) my wife was 'too hot' for me!!!!!!!!! Further HE didn't have any of those things.........

Honestly...........for a few moments I was so stunned at his response I was at a loss for words......rarely the case for me. After I regained composure my retort "I've had tough times too and this is my second marriage......................but you know what? I make better decisions and work hard to maintain them.

Then we just glared at each other...........................Then I said "You're f**kin pitiful dude" and walked out. I could not believe I just was part of that conversation with a middle-aged guy

McLovin 09-16-2013 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 7659086)
I have to wonder if this interesting story from the OP is real??

Could be just a social experiment type post... it sure worked

The woman described is an odd and rare trailer trash existentialist poet.

KFC911 09-16-2013 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 7659086)
I have to wonder if this interesting story from the OP is real??

Could be just a social experiment type post... it sure worked

I'll betcha $500 Wayne's OP is for real :p

Shaun @ Tru6 09-16-2013 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 7658918)
What, do you owe me money or something?

So much hate in your heart, I'll say a prayer for you tonight.SmileWavy

But please, talk with your priest. Seriously.

foxpaws 09-16-2013 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 7658468)
Actually yes there is - a woman with a sense of entitlement for no reason other than she's a woman. And we as a society indulge it - Google "alimony".

IMHO if you want equality, fine. Go stand on your own two feet and succeed or fail on your own merits or lack thereof. THAT'S equality.

wow - congrats to the woman who took you, if she had to put up with that sort of crap for long. Really - that is what you get from this?

RWebb 09-16-2013 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epbrown (Post 7659115)
people don't really care about your possessions, just the badge, the image it conveys ...

yup - Thorstein Veblen wrote a whole book on this - Theory of the Leisure Class

dagriff 09-16-2013 01:27 PM

Similar thing happened to me a couple of weeks ago. I was out in the countryside a couple of miles from home. As I was turning left on to the main road there was a cry of "Rich MotherFkR!" from one of a bunch of guys sat in their front yard (with beers, if that's relevant.....). It's worth mentioning that there were also several kids playing in the yard.
On the opposite end of the spectrum, a few days after we moved in, I had the 911 outside. As I was talking to my son, a R.C.M.P. cars comes up our drive (our drive is another story. People have used it as a rat run for years as the building was empty and still feel entitled to drive through at high speed). Anyway, I digress. The cop stops & jumps out the car & comes over saying "Oh wow, its beautiful, I've always wanted one of the older ones"
We then had a really nice chat & I offered him a drive anytime he wanted (not as stupid as I look...).

Hugh R 09-16-2013 01:36 PM

I live in Los Angeles County. You see a p-car every few minutes driving.

I can see somewhere that they are very uncommon that to the untrained eye its hard to tell a new one from a well maintained older one. Even in LA, people see mine, which is in pretty good shape for an 84, and assume its worth double or triple its value.

That said, she was a biotch.

Shaun @ Tru6 09-16-2013 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foxpaws (Post 7659212)
wow - congrats to the woman who took you, if she had to put up with that sort of crap for long. Really - that is what you get from this?

time can suck.

the woman in the OP may have struggled against life for years, POP may have struggled against a woman for years.

both can yield an outburst.

Baz 09-16-2013 01:46 PM

You shall not covet your neighbor's house. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.

— Exodus 20:17

trader220 09-16-2013 02:24 PM

I commend you for your composure but in this day and age I wouldn't be surprised if someone came out of that house with a gun drawn on you.

IMHO is best to leave them be.

sc_rufctr 09-16-2013 02:29 PM

This thread has touched some raw nerves or so it seems. ;)

And have you ever noticed how the bad guy in a movie is often driving a Porsche?
Ray Liotta's character in "Hannibal" (sequel to "Silence of the Lambs") drove a Boxster and he got his brains fed to him. :eek:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1379370537.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1379370561.jpg

BTW: Welcome to Porsche ownership. A lot of non Porsche owners have no idea how old our cars are.

RWebb 09-16-2013 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz (Post 7659374)
You shall not covet your neighbor's house. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.

— Exodus 20:17

Two of my neighbors have chickens -- looks like there is a loophole for those if they are "free-range"...

sammyg2 09-16-2013 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 7659492)
Two of my neighbors have chickens -- looks like there is a loophole for those if they are "free-range"...

Looks like chickens are off the list too:

Quote:

And thou shalt not lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith;
:eek:




disclaimer: that was intended as a joke and was intended in jest, not as an insult.
But if it went too far just say so and I'll delete it.

Oh Haha 09-16-2013 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TGTIW (Post 7658335)
So going back and doing a few donuts on her front lawn is out of the question?

Maybe but I will use the wife's Honda for those. Don't tell her.:cool:




j/k--

Oh Haha 09-16-2013 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 7659086)
I have to wonder if this interesting story from the OP is real??

Could be just a social experiment type post... it sure worked

Well, I'm still in trouble with Mrs. Ohhaha so I can assure you it wasn't any social experiment.

Sid-for being a young one you have a sensibility about you based on your comments here. You are right, though. I should have just let it go but I took it personally but it's sort of difficult NOT to I suppose.

I don't make any apologies for having some good fortune. My wife and I have both worked hard to get where we are today. Both of us have been laid off in the past 5 years and had to start from the bottom at new careers.

BY the shape of the gal's car and home I would say she is probably not having the same good fortune. That doesn't make her a bad person and I am glad that we were able to clear things up. If this would have happened in another city I wouldn't have done anything. I have seen this car around town so I knew it was someone from here.

Baz 09-16-2013 04:49 PM

"Everyone wants to live on top of the mountain, but all the happiness and growth occurs while you're climbing it."
~ Andy Rooney

techweenie 09-16-2013 05:09 PM

Jeez, I've never lived anywhere that I can recall anyone commenting on any of my cars -- except when I was overly proud of my 928 convertible and someone (appropriately, in retrospect) took me down a notch by telling me it looked like a Miata.


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