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Eric Coffey 09-27-2013 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by matt711 (Post 7677067)
20' is a very long distance to engage from with a pistol. Most pistol engagementes occur at around 7 feet. If a bad guy is 20' away you are probably not in a legal use of deadly force situation. Unless the bad guy is armed with a long gun and aiming it at you and in that case your probably toast anyway.

If a bad-guy is within 20-ft, you are probably toast. In other words, 20-ft is well within a justifiable use-of-force "boundary" IMO. Ever hear of the 21-ft. rule? Basically, the average distance a person can cover (and reach you) while coming at you with a knife, before you have time to draw and fire your weapon, is 21 feet. So, if you wait until an attacker is within 20-ft, it's probably too late for you to effectively draw your weapon and shoot.

targa911S 09-27-2013 04:43 PM

still at 20 feet you'll have a lot of explaining to do.

Jeff Higgins 09-27-2013 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by targa911S (Post 7677774)
still at 20 feet you'll have a lot of explaining to do.

Yup. And a 20 foot shot in an average home is pretty darn unlikely.

Again, many in-home defensive shootings involve physical contact between the assailant and the occupant. This is far more difficult with a shotgun than with a sidearm that can be held back out of the assailant's reach while the homeowner essentially stiffarms him.

Tobra 09-27-2013 06:59 PM

The wife does like the little 5 shot .38 S&W I got her for Christmas the first year we were married, scored a lot of points with the father in law too. Second she got the paper off it he sees that little plastic case and says, "Far out." She says, "What." He recognized what it was immediately, she had to open the box and look.

I was thinking I was going to need to get her a little 9 when I got my Mini 14, now it looks like a little compact one for me. Single stack, Sig 938 looks pretty good.

regency 09-27-2013 07:39 PM

Tobra, check out the Sig P232 SL, 380 or 9mm kurz ( short ), sweet rig.

1973 911 T MFI Coupe, Aubergine

Steve

flipper35 09-30-2013 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Eric Coffey (Post 7677560)
If a bad-guy is within 20-ft, you are probably toast. In other words, 20-ft is well within a justifiable use-of-force "boundary" IMO. Ever hear of the 21-ft. rule? Basically, the average distance a person can cover (and reach you) while coming at you with a knife, before you have time to draw and fire your weapon, is 21 feet. So, if you wait until an attacker is within 20-ft, it's probably too late for you to effectively draw your weapon and shoot.

My take on that is you should have your weapon out ready to shoot before they get that close to you, you shouldn't be clearing the house with a holstered weapon. Then 21' is a lot farther away. You could get at least two shots in if they rush you at that point.

J P Stein 09-30-2013 06:09 AM

I lust for a Mustang.....Colt, not Pony.....in .380. No plastic here.

J P Stein 09-30-2013 06:17 AM

Colt .380. .....http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1380550615.jpg

red-beard 09-30-2013 12:24 PM

I have the 1903 and the 1922 in .380ACP

They are nice. I keep trying to find a "wreck" which I wouldn't mind doing a strip, polish and robar coating job.

nostatic 09-30-2013 12:39 PM

I have one of these. My wife likes to shoot this one too. Will eat .38/.357 and is 7-shot. 4" barrel is a nice compromise length.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore...4194_01_lg.jpg

fred cook 09-30-2013 01:19 PM

If it is a Colt 380 then it is a 1908, not a 1903.

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I have the 1903 and the 1922 in .380ACP<br>
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They are nice. I keep trying to find a "wreck" which I wouldn't mind doing a strip, polish and robar coating job.

targa911S 09-30-2013 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by J P Stein (Post 7681056)

hey I have that gun! Mine has elephant ivory on her though.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1380578476.jpg

targa911S 09-30-2013 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 7681662)
I have the 1903 and the 1922 in .380ACP

They are nice. I keep trying to find a "wreck" which I wouldn't mind doing a strip, polish and robar coating job.

the 1903 is a 1908 if it's in .380

Like this..

.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1380578608.jpg

targa911S 09-30-2013 02:07 PM

1903 is a .32 like this...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1380578804.jpg

red-beard 09-30-2013 02:15 PM

Yes, but we also call the Pocket Vest in .25ACP the 1908.

Technically, the .32ACP and the .380ACP are the M1903 and M1908, respectively.

And a Browning 1910 was used to start WWI

http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/im...0/IMG_5196.jpg

I have a later model, the 1922

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._1922_1850.jpg

targa911S 09-30-2013 03:42 PM

love those James. I would like to add one to my collection as well some day. Very nice.

red-beard 09-30-2013 04:32 PM

A lot of the 1922's were made for the Nazis in WWII by FN, under occupation.

targa911S 09-30-2013 04:51 PM

the ORTGIES is also very similar in design.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1380588704.jpg

red-beard 09-30-2013 04:56 PM

That looks like a complete ripoff

targa911S 09-30-2013 05:38 PM

Ortgies Semi-Automatic Pistol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


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