Whoops, made a bad assumption about the current and winds. Should have looked at the charts first. I wonder if CNN is hiring :--)

I think everyone here is overqualified. I think they should change to Comedy News Network.

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"Update:
A 7,000' AGL mountain of floating plastic has been recently sighted just east of the aircraft's plotted course.
We will keep you posted."

I don't get it, they could have flown to the moon and back by now...

They found german subs in 1944 faster than this, treat it like a sub, drop sonic listeners, triangulate find the plane. I can't believe in this technospastic age we can't find a plane that crashed anywhere on this planet in a matter of days....

I realize they have better equipment but I can tell you when I'm in the ocean I have a hard time spotting a bright red buoy at a qtr mile. Ocean is not a great background to find things in.

Debris floating semi-submerged is a fear everyone who's ever run in the ocean or on a tree lined river has felt and most will tell you that sort of stuff isn't spotted until you're right on top of it.

Benny Hill. Excellent! :)

I saw images of them doing this earlier in the week, I think it was on one of the UK sites.

Much better news coverage than what we get over here.

Listen for what? And where? The "black box" ping has limited range (couple kilometers, which I think has to include depth) and in one to two weeks it will stop pinging.

Boeing 777 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
775,000 lbs of aircraft floating in pieces in the water should reflect something back, right?

Most of it won't float...

What little does float is likely 500, 1000, or more miles away from where it started floating...

It's not as easy as some of you guys think it is.

JR

hey Bob - not everyone is as talented as you. You should give them a call! (wink wink)


Glad you liked that Marcus.....used to watch that show every weekend night after coming home blitzed from chasing tail....good times....

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That Benny Hill song was like Pavlov's dogs when I was a pubescent young fella. Could probably turn it on to get in the mood now days but Mrs. bivenator prefers RnB.

My thoughts on the plane are that they are seeing a bunch of trash and should see the above map for the exact location.

Personally, I think they are wasting mucho time and money at this stage.

Benny Hill - the best face in the business.

Now what?

Oh my, change in search pattern (hey isn't that current down in the roaring 40's one of the strongest in the world boys?) leads to another debris field. Stuff seen everywhere but no one has a clue. How bout a long range helo with mid-air re-fueling to temp a collection of debris, any debris? Oops search called off because of weather.

I think the idea is to make folks BORED so they stop paying attention anymore. Not a bad strategy given the bulls@*t so far.

If I were an example, I am loosing interest real fast and basketball, Braves spring season, Putin and the cost of sushi is taking more of my attention.

Still nothing... :(

Six days left on battery power for positioning beacon. Jacque Cousteau was always right, "our oceans are littered with garbage". That was back in 1975!! Garbage, flotsam, jetsom, junk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The latest? "Oh we spotted orange objects". Let see what this turns out to be. Yet, the news spouts out as if Morse Code ....."Our best minds on the planet are working on it"!!!!

What a load of crap.

Keep this post going.

This entire process is an embarrassment to the state of aviation technology on a global scale.

I can understand not finding Amelia Earhart but this is crazy.

We made a mistake. EVERYBODY 600 MILES WEST!!!!!

We mean east, no ermmm south. Yeah everybody 500 miles south!

This has become a total embarrassment.

They're never going to find it. That ****'s gone.

Better luck with a ouija board!

Batteries in the black boxes will be dead soon...

that is the whole idea......I do not think they want to find it....

maybe they shot it dwn.
maybe its on the hard with prisoner negations
Or a 1000 other reasons.

"never"?


they found the titanic eventually. of course it was bigger, in shallower water, and they had a better idea where it went down. only took seventy years.

What about the automatic pilot break down on a Maylasia 777 in 2005?

Investigation: 200503722 - In-flight upset; Boeing 777-200, 9M-MRG, 240 km NW Perth, WA

I have seen a CNN expert discussion about that incident. In 2005 the pilots were able to get control of the plane by going manual. But that may not always be possible if the pilots are not sufficiently trained to deal with sudden, catastrophic, malfunctions of the automatic pilot.

Then there was the Boeing warning about a fuselage structural problem at the satellite antenna that could lead to sudden decompression, 5 months ago:

Malaysia Airlines mystery: US issued warnings over Boeing 777 'weak spot' - Telegraph

What are this boards experts opinions on this information?

Just like my gas gauge on my MKX (on which I end up driving miles after it tell me that there is 0 miles left), the batteries always last longer.

The thing to watch right now is the "Navy" showing up with a small sonar at the last minutes and will miraculously find the box with minutes to spare...

I think that focus should be put on the pilots' voices and particularly the last signoff to air traffic control. The copilot's voice should be confirmed as being his or a possible intruder. There are lots of other captains that flew with that copilot to see if that was his voice or not. This could confirm if a hijacking had taken place or not. Just a thought.....

Hehe,
I don't think we have any expert NTSB accident investigators here wolf, just a bunch of guys with various aviation experiences in a lot of different fields including private, commercial, and military, pondering the sheer absence of information on flt 370. Since we know almost nothing, everything is still on the table and nothing can be ruled out yet. When looking at possible causes, I always ask "Does this match the timeline of events we do know?" A bonkers autopilot and structural weakness warning are not a very good match to the events that have been presented so far but... we really don't know so we can't rule it out.

Autopilot failure? There should be warning lights to indicate this. Corrective action can be made by the pilots.
Structural failure? Can lead to decompression and pilots can correct for that.
Too much structural failure and aircraft can get out of control beyond pilots' capabilities.

In the CNN discussion the question was raised how well the pilots are trained in all possible auto pilot break downs, no matter how extreme and how little time is left for correction. What is the pilot training procedure for Malaysia pilots, and what is the record of the MH370 crew training hours?

You mean like pressing the "auto pilot off" switch and taking the yoke to level the plane? Asiana airline clearly had trouble with that maneuver when landing at SFO but this was straight, level flight at altitude.

This gives you a look at the cockpit. We don't know if this TV news simulated flight re-creation is accurate.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/22235213/flight-recreated-in-777-simulator/

Just what do we know?

Malaysian authorities just announced that the final words recorded in the cockpit were not, "Goodnight. All right." The latest "fact" is the final words were, "Goodnight. Malaysian 370."

Three weeks later, a complete change. Why isn't the transcript and audio available? No wonder everything out of the mouth of the authorities has zero credibility.

What everyone seems to forget is that what happened is EXACTLY what was SUPPOSED to happen.

The Captain wanted to embarrass the Malaysian Government that had stolen the last 20-something elections, and had convicted and sentenced the leader of his opposition party of sodomy the day before the flight.

He accomplished the perfect plan. The INMARSAT pinger (that he did not know was there, installed by Boeing when the airframe was a white tail), was for datalink system MAS never bought. He was not trained on a system that was not installed, so disabling it was not on his list.

It is the perfect crime. Imagine if INMARSAT had not stepped up.....

^ So its the pilot against 'them' theory. I'm still not convinced. Scapegoat perhaps. What's Malaysia gov. controlled air transport covering up? Why the slow, lack of or muddy information? They call the FBI for help but then I hear the FBI on CNN stating Maylay hasn't provided all they've ask for. They still haven't provided an exact detailed timeline of events. The timeline provided has changed a few times already, so who do you trust?

I am still into the debris field............................"found orange debris"... I would imagine this gives up hope of life rafts, door slides, even vests, but NO!!!!!! The orange stuff was not related to the aircraft. So the green stuff and blue stuff and now orange stuff is ocean flotsam. Nothing more.

What the heck are they pulling here? :confused:

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Then crashed the plane.

Their taking the ping detector to the site!
















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