Originally Posted by stealthn (Post 7977767)

Unbelievably poor reporting...based on satellite information.

They have heard the pings, they have not found any airplane debris, really sad.

There has been so much dis-information until the plane is found they should stop saying anything.

Don't even get me started on CNN's "breaking news" of nothing other than speculation.... :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Sunroof (Post 7979261)

Many sailors who take on the challenge of circumnavigating the glode either in races or solo personal desires ususally takeon the "roaring forties" in the southern oceans. This is where we hear of de-mastings, lost sailors, etc. You can be the greatest skilled sailor with the best equipment but if your takingon the "roaring forties", you have to have a horse shoe up your butt as well..................

This is where the search for the Maylasian Airlines is focused. I can imagine the multitude of seasick sailors caoming that area right now.

THE ROARING FORTIES

The world’s largest hunt for a missing airliner has zeroed in on one of the most desolate corners of the planet, an area of ocean nearly two miles deep, swept by huge rolling swells and buffeted by strong winds known as the Roaring Forties,” begins a Post story on the extreme weather conditions in area some 1,500 miles southwest of Perth, Australia, where a satellite may have spotted debris.

The Roaring Forties refers to the belt of ripping westerly winds, aided by the Earth’s rotation, between roughly 40 and 50 degrees latitude in the southern hemisphere. Winds rage in this region as it sits in the transition zone between the more tranquil, balmy subtropics and frigid polar vortex zipping around the South Pole. Pressures and temperatures change rapidly here, driving the winds frequently over 30-40 mph, and give rise to storms.

Not the place you want to search for a missing aircraft.

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 7978410)

A minute ago you were saying unique IDs weren't on parts, now you're saying they are. All I'm saying (since you obviously missed it) is that a motivated terror group could orchestrate an aircraft theft like this by tossing some ELTs (programmed to match the target aircraft's ID - maybe even the actual ones FROM that aircraft) into the sea along with whatever other debris (or even bodies / parts) as "proof" the aircraft crashed, then wait a couple of months and then use the still-perfectly-functional aircraft for whatever nefarious purpose they've got in mind... Maybe it's a bit Tom Clancy-ish but if I could think of it, I'm sure the bad guys could too.

I'm not saying at all it'll happen, but it could. I'm sure your type would've dismissed the whole "hijack airplanes and use them as weapons" tactic as a nutty manifestation of paranoia too -up until about September 10, 2001.

There are an awful lot of crazy people in the world with vendettas, political agendas and scores to settle. Never underestimate how resourceful a truly motivated, crazy enemy can get.

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 7979339)

Excellent post. I passed through the area on the way to Africa on board an Aust Navy ship during the mid 80s.
Everyone got sick going through that area. Most of the ship smelt like vomit, piss and poo mixed together. :(

Originally Posted by berettafan (Post 7979362)

and to think I've griped about having to eat my two prime rib dinners on the bathroom floor of my window cabin on a cruise ship passing through the straight at the southern end of Cuba.

Originally Posted by cockerpunk (Post 7979360)

and we are saying that no, they can't.

everything is serialized, and can be cross checked with maintenance and install records.

Originally Posted by intakexhaust (Post 7979648)

Q: Has there in recent years (say in the last 20), any large commercial civilian plane with advanced comm. and avionics completely lost without any trace or answer to what happened?

Originally Posted by Cajundaddy (Post 7979773)

Question. Why would a pilot or a terrorist fly a perfectly good airplane towards the south pole until it ran out of fuel and hit the water? I don't get it. No publicity, no ransom demands, no leveraging their holdings to some end. Just fly it into the water? What are we missing here?

Originally Posted by Cajundaddy (Post 7979773)

Question. Why would a pilot or a terrorist fly a perfectly good airplane towards the south pole until it ran out of fuel and hit the water? I don't get it. No publicity, no ransom demands, no leveraging their holdings to some end. Just fly it into the water? What are we missing here?

Originally Posted by gordner (Post 7979694)

Sure they could, serialized components on aircraft are major or significant components, and I can think of very few that would float...all of the debris that these people are looking for are the soft goods from the aircraft such as seat cushions, passenger luggage and bits and pieces of trim etc. light enough to float.

Far from every part of an aircraft is serialized. And then you make the assumption that figuring out if that serial number is related to that aircraft is easy, far from it. True Boeing knows what it left the factory with, but after that you are piecing througt the records of the aircraft operators ( I don't know if this aircraft was delivered to Malaysian directly from Boeing) to see what has been changed. Human nature being what it is, the older the aircraft the more difficult the task.

Having said that, I cannot understand why every body is seeking some sort of sinister answer to what occured. There is not enough info out there to say this was intentional or anything else, better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt as the saying goes lol.

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 7979786)

What if he made the demand to the Malaysians that his jailed political icon be released? Considering the way they have conducted themselves thus far, do you think they would release that information?

Originally Posted by Cajundaddy (Post 7979799)

Anything is possible at this point. Flight 990 went down under similar circumstances in 1999 with no clear reason for the 1st officers actions and it just seems like a pretty ineffective terrorist ploy. Maybe they are using airplanes to collect their 72 virgins. I just don't get it.


EgyptAir Flight 990 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by cockerpunk (Post 7979790)

because it was an accident. it always was.

Originally Posted by cockerpunk (Post 7979790)

because it was an accident. it always was.

Originally Posted by Cajundaddy (Post 7979817)

Not likely. A pilot doesn't fly 7hrs due south by accident. They know the routes and know what the stars look like out the window just like street signs and landmarks. If it headed south into no-mans land, it was a deliberate action.

Originally Posted by cockerpunk (Post 7979858)

aircraft fly themselves. :rolleyes:

navigating a jumbo jet by the stars .... LOL