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recycled sixtie 10-25-2014 06:16 AM

I believe in karma. It means for me you reap what you sow. If you sow good seeds you should get a good crop. If you sow crappy seeds then you likely won't get anything.

This is proven in our block. I treat everybody well and am generally well received. However one individual is always trying to win at the expense of others. Most of everybody avoids her like the plague or are just civil. She does not get it and never will. What goes around comes around.
Guy.

charlesbahn 10-25-2014 06:36 AM

Sorry, can't resist

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scottmandue 10-25-2014 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 8322944)
I would like to believe in it. When I think about it, nope, not really.

Agreed, lots of bad things happening to good people, good things happening to bad people.

I think you guys with the rosey glasses are the ones who haven't been around much.

recycled sixtie 10-25-2014 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 8323252)
Agreed, lots of bad things happening to good people, good things happening to bad people.

I think you guys with the rosey glasses are the ones who haven't been around much.

I think that an optimistic attitude helps in this world. :)Guy

scottmandue 10-25-2014 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 8323087)
Agreed. I believe in karma, because it typically means doing the right thing and putting others before yourself. The right thing is rarely easy and often unappreciated, but it still makes you feel good inside. When I look at how lucky I am in my life, I'd say some of that goodness has come back to me.

Mind you I do believe in helping out my fellow man (or even that occasional animal) but that is down to my religion.
Karma (as it is being interpreted here) is just doing good hoping for payback... like paying into your IRA... nothing altruistic about it.
Or (if I understand it correctly) the Islamic belief that when you die they (whoever "they" are) weigh your good and bad deeds and if the good outweighs the bad you get into heaven (WIN!).

Just my ideology bit I feel we should do good for the sake of doing good... when livi heals a child he does it because that is what he loves to do... sure he gets some financial compensation for his time but that in no way compares to the good he is doing. (if I may presume to know what livi thinks/feels/does)

scottmandue 10-25-2014 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by recycled sixtie (Post 8323263)
I think that an optimistic attitude helps in this world. :)Guy

If you knew me you would find out I am a very optimistic guy... however I'm also a very realistic guy.

Sorry if my Karma ran over your dogma. ;)

LeeH 10-25-2014 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by recycled sixtie (Post 8323172)
I believe in karma. It means for me you reap what you sow. If you sow good seeds you should get a good crop. If you sow crappy seeds then you likely won't get anything.

I agree. While I talk about earning "karma points," I don't think karma is a magical power or the universe keeping score. Instead, I think people who have positive outlooks treat others better, are more open to opportunity, and generally let the bad stuff go, while focusing on the good stuff. The result is, people with the above attitude toward life seem to have lots of good luck.

scottmandue 10-25-2014 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by recycled sixtie (Post 8323172)
It means for me you reap what you sow. If you sow good seeds you should get a good crop. If you sow crappy seeds then you likely won't get anything.

Guy.

Did you know you were quoting the bible? ;)

" Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows."

Problem is Karma and positive attitude are two different things... traditional Asian Karma involves reincarnation... meaning you may not get pay back for your good/bad deeds in this lifetime. Are you guys okay with that?

recycled sixtie 10-25-2014 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 8323453)
Did you know you were quoting the bible? ;)

" Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows."

Problem is Karma and positive attitude are two different things... traditional Asian Karma involves reincarnation... meaning you may not get pay back for your good/bad deeds in this lifetime. Are you guys okay with that?

Yes I know that I was quoting the bible. Biblical references lead to Parf which I am trying to avoid.

I cannot take any credit for this and I honestly admit I plagiarized.
Guy

PS Another thread going nowhere fast.....

onewhippedpuppy 10-25-2014 11:03 AM

I have never heard of contributing to your IRA being called good karma. How about sound financial planning?

scottmandue 10-25-2014 11:07 AM

Sorry Guy, I didn't mean that as a stab or a put down you... I kinda presumed you knew that was a paraphrase...
I also presumed a discussion on the subject of Karma would involve some discussion of spirituality seeing as it is a concept of many Asian philosophies.

Did I mention that my dogs breath smells like dog food?

scottmandue 10-25-2014 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 8323557)
I have never heard of contributing to your IRA being called good karma. How about sound financial planning?

Missed the point... being good trusting that you will get good payback (karma) is like thinking you are winning brownie points that will come back to you later (as good karma). Just like putting money into your IRA so you can get money out of your IRA later on.

herr_oberst 10-25-2014 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 8322997)
Western Karma. If your ex ripped you off he or she will get theirs down the track and yet so often that simply doesn't happen.

You're describing Schadenfreude.

Karma is personal.

recycled sixtie 10-25-2014 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 8323561)
Sorry Guy, I didn't mean that as a stab or a put down you... I kinda presumed you knew that was a paraphrase...
I also presumed a discussion on the subject of Karma would involve some discussion of spirituality seeing as it is a concept of many Asian philosophies.

Did I mention that my dogs breath smells like dog food?

No problem Scott. No offence taken. I was never very good at referencing quotes in term papers either.
Guy

onewhippedpuppy 10-25-2014 11:48 AM

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<div style="font-style:italic">I have never heard of contributing to your IRA being called good karma. How about sound financial planning?</div>
</div>Missed the point... being good trusting that you will get good payback (karma) is like thinking you are winning brownie points that will come back to you later (as good karma). Just like putting money into your IRA so you can get money out of your IRA later on.
I just like to think that if you live your life right, good things will come to you. Maybe karma, maybe the outcome of living a good life. Either way, I'm doing my best.

Tobra 10-25-2014 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JavaBrewer (Post 8322953)
You have not lived long enough...I think? Maybe not spiritual but I MO you keep doing wrong and the wrong will find your negative karma.

I am not referring to my karma. I have seen far too many horrible people do far too well and seen good people suffer. I am the nicest guy you never met in person. I go out of my way to treat people well. It really surprises them.

Maybe the Eastern concept of karma, but Western? No way

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 8323573)
You're describing Schadenfreude.

Karma is personal.

He was describing the ex's personal karma

herr_oberst 10-25-2014 01:53 PM

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He was describing the ex's personal karma[/QUOTE]

He was describing an unfulfilled expectation that he was hoping for.

scottmandue 10-25-2014 03:40 PM

Just to clarify... Like Torba I go out of my way to be nice to people and have a positive attitude... and many people I work with are confounded/confused by it (maybe it is a Miata driver thing)

I may be totally off base (yet again) and I have only read a few books on eastern mysticism ('Zen and the art of motorcycle maintained' counts right?)... but I think the concept of Karma is to do good just for the sake of doing good... to do good for gain (to build up good Karma) would negate any positive Karma because you are doing good with ulterior motives.

I need to stop typing now because my head is starting to hurt. :p

wdfifteen 10-25-2014 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 8323849)

I need to stop typing now because my head is starting to hurt. :p

Try using your fingers.
They're gentler to the keyboard and it rewards you by not sending pain rays to your cranium. It's keyboard karma.

Por_sha911 10-25-2014 05:29 PM

"whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap"
You can call it karma if you want.


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