Oh The sheer Joy!
 

Of living in beautiful blue and green Oregon. It looks like we will be the first state to pay a mileage tax collected through the use of satellite tracking. Of course, I'm sure this will be used only for tax collecting purposes. The state would never use this to track individual travel or measure speed, right?

Oh wait...how can they not track individual travel if this is to be used to determine miles traveled?

Oregon to try U.S.'s first mileage-based road tax

Just wanted to give a heads up here. Logging off...

Stealth technology just found a commercial application.

How about tourist passing through? How do we pay?

And the prodigal complainer returns...

They are looking for 5,000 volunteers for the pilot project. So, can we assume you will be one of them?

Why on Earth would I do that?

I believe he made his triumphant return and subsequent departure in one fell swoop!:cool:

Paul, glad you're still alive and kicking.

To show us that you are not a complainer. Your response to Paul would indicate you approve of this program. Or then again, maybe not. Maybe it was just an irresistible opportunity to take a childish cheap shot at someone, and the actual topic presented really doesn't mean anything at all to you.

Simply stunning invasion of privacy. How the heck did this get approved?

Thanks for letting us know you're still around, Paul.

Why don't you ignore the true complainers and stop by a bit more often?

All in the name of homeland security....it's not intended to spy on us, it's to keep us safe !

^^^^Sorry, should have been green font.^^^^^

Is this to be done by GPS satellite or some other means? I could see it being the former, but with some other way it seems a bit expensive/difficult to keep track of.

I'm going to make a wager and bet that this will not " replace " the current gasoline tax, but "augment" it. Taxes never go away , or decrease .
It is the modern world we live in .
Hello Paul!

How is this legal!!! Did you Oregonians vote on this??

Saw the OP and thought for sure this was a thread revival. Welcome back Paul....don't be a stranger ;)

Speeding tickets... same as ever. Haven't you been to Oregon?

Wouldn't it just be cheaper to just take down current mileage at the vehicles annual safety inspection (if the state has one) for taxing purposes? Seems like a big cash outlay for something that is easy to check yearly by just charging for a window sticker.

Vehicle inspection in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oregon doesn't seem to have a state wide inspection but other states do.

ODB huh? sounds about as smart as folks who volunteered for Flo to track their driving for Progressive. Old 911s sound more appealing all the time ! ODB, what's that ???

Yeah, at tag renewal even without an official inspection they could simple ask for a mileage update at renewal.

I suspect some cars will be 'parked with bad batteries'.
Then more legislation and cameras and remote license plate readers and fines and bureaucracy and property taxes to sustain it all.

Welcome to California.
Home of the watermelon seed.
The harder they press down, the faster it zips away.

What about when the car is driven out-of-state?

Plenty of people in the Portlandia area who cross back and forth between Oregon and Washington continuously. I'd hate to pay Oregon tax and pay Washington's much higher gas taxes simultaneously.

Stuff like this is why the Uber model will soon rule the world. At a certain point, people will have had enough legislation and just give up on buying $50K or $100K cars, or whatever they'll cost in 10 years.

I was at a Mercury dealer today getting my F150 serviced. A little crappy looking MKZ four door sedan goes for $55K. You gotta be kidding me. They've already lost me as a customer.

Who cares? Paul is back!

Stay a while Paul. We (any reasonable PPOT members, anyway) missed you.

I do suspect that Motion is correct. Millennials have already shown a marked decrease in driving licenses and car ownership. It's not a big leap to realize that if owning a car costs 55 cents a mile with a big up front capital outlay that buying transportation at 60 cents a mile with no capital outlay isn't a bad deal. I wouldn't be surprised if in a generation car owership is a luxury reserved for collectors cars.

Gas tax makes the most sense for road maintenance.

A small, light car that gets good mileage causes very little damage to roads, and pays little in taxes.
A large truck causes more road damage, and pays more in taxes due to more fuel burned.

A trailer? The tow vehicle is going to use more gas than when empty, thus paying for the damage caused by the trailer.

A per mile tax does not distinguish the difference in vehicle size and appropriate tax levels.

FWIW, which is probably not much
 

Dear Rep. Sprenger,

Satellite tracking to collect a road use tax is Orwellian to me. Not only that, I see a potential unintended consequence that is frightening. I’m sure all people with access to the info provided would never use it to do something bad, right? Something like track an ex wife or girlfriend, a celebrity, or a political figure, with intent to do harm? How can this information on a person’s driving habits be kept private? I don’t think it can.

If it’s more revenue they want, and I suspect it is, fine. This can be done by other methods. Make owners of hybrid or all electric cars “pay their fair share” with increased license fees.

But this program? Well, I guess Orwell was indeed an optimist.

Oregon to try U.S.'s first mileage-based road tax

Sincerely,

+1

When I was last in Singapore ~2001, they have a maximum number of cars. To own a car you have to acquire a license, which means buy someone's POS and scrap it. The going rate was upwards of $100K.

Soooo glad to live in Texas. If only we could get rid of the "temporary" business franchise tax...

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