Killing Coyotes

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by Holger

Wow, three pages discussing weapons over this.

Get the fence repaired?

Thank you for your wonderful insight . No fences here btw...have YOU ever dealt with coyotes? ...and I'd rather talk ammo than build fences plus it's still not daylight yet

[Crowbob]

I don't know what the coyote situation is in Sweden but here coyotes are a form of vermin, Holger. Fences are great for keeping pets, livestock and children in but totally inneffective for keeping vermin out. Coyotes are not just a nuisance. They are an intelligent, extremely aggressive and supremely adaptive and dangerous pack animal that must be controlled if not eliminated entirely, which is unrealistic.

[Holger]

LOL!
I am aware that Hugh asked for advice regarding weapons.
But you might have noticed that he HAD a fence and that the coyotes became a problem as the fence was damaged.

And no, no coyote-problem here. We have other problems. :-D

[HardDrive]

Holger, stop being so logical. We're Americans. Talking about guns is much funner than fixing fences.

[Holger]

[Crowbob]

Originally Posted by Holger

LOL!
I am aware that Hugh asked for advice regarding weapons.
But you might have noticed that he HAD a fence and that the coyotes became a problem as the fence was damaged.

And no, no coyote-problem here. We have other problems. :-D

And you will notice 1) his goal was to protect his pet until the fence got fixed and 2) shooting them was not his first preference.

I thought Sweden required all adult citizens to own guns. What's the problem?

[targa911S]

PA is talking about a bounty on them here. Plus we have seen"Coywolves" as well. Bigger and much more aggressive toward humans. They will stalk you as Coyotes won't. .223 will do just fine.

[Jeff Higgins]

I actually have a lot of respect for the damn things, even though I endeavor to shoot every one I see. One day, however, I did break that long-standing policy...

I was out grouse hunting with my old Labrador Deceiver (Lab / Golden Retriever mix) Rocky, when the skies just opened up. My god was it ever raining... So we sought shelter under a fir tree with really low hanging branches, like all the way to the ground. It was nice and dry once we crawled in all the way to the trunk.

We had been sitting there about ten minutes, waiting out the rain, when a coyote apparently had exactly the same idea - it crawled in under the branches with us. It stopped when it saw us, I grabbed Rocky's collar, and there we all sat, staring at each other. It finally laid down, not five feet away from us. The poor thing was absolutely drenched. It was the weirdest thing - Rocky quit pulling on his collar and laid down. We had a temporary, universally understood "truce" between man and his dog and the coyote. We all hunkered under that tree for probably an hour together. Weird... it's like he knew that for that moment, in that place, he was in no danger. Never seen anything like it.

[Craig T]

Originally Posted by Holger

Wow, three pages discussing weapons over this.

Get the fence repaired?

A fence will keep coyotes out…IF IT'S 15 F@#K!NG FEET HIGH!

I have a 5' fence around my orchard. The coyotes clear it in a single standing bound. I put an 18" extension wire around the perimeter (that's 6' 6" in case you're bad at math). It didn't do a damned thing. They still go right over it.

Fences don't work. Let's get back to guns

[crustychief]

My neighbor founded the National Predator Callers Assn in the 70's. IIRC he would call them in and shoot them for free, legally. He was and possibly still is ( he is 77) licensed by the state to shoot even in city limits. I am sure there is a similar service in your area.

[flipper35]

Coyotes are not normally pack animals if they can get food on their own. If they are running in packs they are very effective hunting machines.

As far as using a .22 I have seen one get shot in the back with a .270 and then my uncle thought he would finish it off with his semi-auto .22. It took three rounds to the head, not point blank but inches from his head, and the poor thing still died slowly. We don't actively hunt them much here but open up on them during deer season.

Hugh, my daughter has a Marlin 30-30 for her deer gun. Sweet shooting and pretty accurate but not long range weapons but it sounds like you don't need to reach out too far.

[Laneco]

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

I actually have a lot of respect for the damn things, even though I endeavor to shoot every one I see. One day, however, I did break that long-standing policy...

I was out grouse hunting with my old Labrador Deceiver (Lab / Golden Retriever mix) Rocky, when the skies just opened up. My god was it ever raining... So we sought shelter under a fir tree with really low hanging branches, like all the way to the ground. It was nice and dry once we crawled in all the way to the trunk.

We had been sitting there about ten minutes, waiting out the rain, when a coyote apparently had exactly the same idea - it crawled in under the branches with us. It stopped when it saw us, I grabbed Rocky's collar, and there we all sat, staring at each other. It finally laid down, not five feet away from us. The poor thing was absolutely drenched. It was the weirdest thing - Rocky quit pulling on his collar and laid down. We had a temporary, universally understood "truce" between man and his dog and the coyote. We all hunkered under that tree for probably an hour together. Weird... it's like he knew that for that moment, in that place, he was in no danger. Never seen anything like it.

That is actually very cool. Every now and then I'll have an odd encounter like this(not THIS cool but similar in idea) with wildlife, but it has always been with either birds or herbivores.

angela

[HHI944]

I'll refrain from posting pics or videos because they're pretty graphic.....but after an exhaustive 7 minutes of googling, it appears that .338LM is sufficient for coyote.

[flipper35]

Joe, I think .338LM is sufficient for (insert game animal here).

[HHI944]

Originally Posted by flipper35

Joe, I think .338LM is sufficient for (insert game animal here).

Yeah, but a shot that would be an annoying wound with a .30-30 is devastatingly fatal with .338LM. Hugh doesn't want to send the critters of wounded......gotta do the right thing and put 'em down fast and clean (good argument for the wife while trying to justify a new rifle?)

[Hugh R]

Thanks guys, just got home from 4 days in Salt Lake City. Dog is fine, my Son got a quote of $300 to cut the tree up, its pretty big and on a slope, so my little chain saw isn't going to do the job.

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by Laneco

That is actually very cool. Every now and then I'll have an odd encounter like this(not THIS cool but similar in idea) with wildlife, but it has always been with either birds or herbivores.

angela

Yes, moments like this are beyond cool. Pretty magic, really. If one spends enough time out there, maybe in the right frame of mind or whatever, these "magic" moments come along just often enough to keep us coming back for more.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by HardDrive

Holger, stop being so logical. We're Americans. Talking about guns is much funner than fixing fences.

LOL! Too true.

Sorry for the trouble the OP is having. I too worry about coyotes getting too close to my home. We have a good balance here so far. Enough deer to keep the coyotes fed and almost (but not quite) enough coyotes to keep the deer population under control. Spring is coming and afterbirth and fawns should keep the coyotes fat for a while, but I worry about my 12 pound dogs being in their fenced yard at night.

[Hugh R]

The dog.

[tabs]

In July of 2002 my Airedale got herself lost for 9 days (it was the hand of God that got her back to me) in S Cal coyote country. She was a strong dog that was fearless. Further nothing furry came into that backyard with her there. I had a cat that proves that one, she survivied.

Ifn I lived in a semi rural area with some property I would have me 3 or 4 Airedales, I could guarntee that nothing that did not belong there would be there....Smart, Strong and Fearless.