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Deschodt 10-05-2016 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by edgemar (Post 9306899)
I wonder what is more preferable... a 997 with a M96 engine with a new LN bearing installed or the updated design in the later 997's with the M97 engine.

Keep in mind the LN bearing is a wear item with - I think - a 40K miles life span or so....
Dunno about you, but my clutches last a hell of a lot longer....
The benefit of the 997.1 with LN bearing is simple: it's cheap ! way cheaper than the 997.2.
As for LN 997.1 vs regular 06-08 997.1, no real numbers to be had... I know that I'd rather avoid both and go 997.2 but $$$..

Halm 10-05-2016 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgemar (Post 9306899)
I wonder what is more preferable... a 997 with a M96 engine with a new LN bearing installed or the updated design in the later 997's with the M97 engine.

I think it is a matter of personal comfort level. I was ok with my 996, and I feel better about my 997 which should have the last bearing design.

Production date and ims - Rennlist Discussion Forums

See post #14.

edgemar 10-05-2016 10:43 AM

Great Link thx!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halm (Post 9306940)
I think it is a matter of personal comfort level. I was ok with my 996, and I feel better about my 997 which should have the last bearing design.

Production date and ims - Rennlist Discussion Forums

See post #14.


onewhippedpuppy 10-05-2016 06:59 PM

The later style M97 IMS appears to be quite reliable. Of course I still have the original IMS in my 986S so your level of panic may vary.

Paul K 02-18-2017 04:59 PM

https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/ctd/5992137570.html

1990C4S 02-19-2017 07:44 AM

$37k is a good price?

speeder 02-19-2017 09:37 AM

No.

Paul K 02-19-2017 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 9479782)
No.

Even with only 31k on the odo?

Paul K 02-19-2017 01:20 PM

How about these?

2005 Porsche 911 Carrera - AutoTempest.com

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/683617054/overview/?aff=atempest&CMP=atempest

https://miami.craigslist.org/brw/cto/5989118766.html

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/692853410/overview/?aff=atempest&CMP=atempest

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/693234086/overview/?aff=atempest&CMP=atempest

https://austin.craigslist.org/ctd/6008331908.html

Aurel 02-19-2017 01:39 PM

This makes me wonder if anyone would like to trade a 1978SC targa in very good condition for one of those...

speeder 02-19-2017 03:44 PM

They all smell pretty edgy through the ads, (w possible exception of the one in Austin). The thing to learn from those examples is that if that is what mid-20s buys, what can you get for low to mid-30s? That's where I'd be looking. Still not a lot of $$ and should be able to get an actual nice car. :cool:

speeder 02-19-2017 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Aurel (Post 9480052)
This makes me wonder if anyone would like to trade a 1978SC targa in very good condition for one of those...

You could sell your SC and buy a decent 997 these days. Might have to throw in a couple bucks but maybe not?

Jrboulder 06-29-2017 03:37 PM

I'm taking a look at an 05 997 in an hour. I guess I have a PLD (poor life decision) burning a hole in my pocket...

wildthing 06-29-2017 07:30 PM

I'm still waiting for 997.2 S models to go below 40k in my area. Where can you find those? Outside of CA I assume.

speeder 08-27-2017 11:19 AM

Here is a $22k 997:
 
Doesn't look bad. :cool:

2005 Porsche 911 Carrera 997

porsche4life 08-27-2017 11:21 AM

Damn!

speeder 08-27-2017 11:22 AM

I'm sure you could get it for $20k.

Deschodt 08-28-2017 11:02 AM

I was looking for a friend very recently, and the experience was identical to when I was looking last year:

- Tons of 2005s for relative peanuts, lots of 06-2008 997s for cheap (def 40 or less).
- Very very few 2009-2012 997s for sale (2012 being a half year), very few sticks, almost all black outside, super expensive, generally $50-55K+ despite high miles. And they sell fast !

You argue whatever you will on IMS, personal risk aversion etc... but the market is pretty clearly defined IMO - and that's my experience as a buyer, not a tire kicker...

That is how I ended up in a 991 instead (same price as a decent 997.2 but way lower miles and less tire noise inside). Not saying it's better, depends on the experience you want...No regrets though.

onewhippedpuppy 08-28-2017 11:58 AM

Spending over $55k on a 997.2 is nutty unless it's a damn nice car. For the same money you can pick up a perfect 996TT, nice 997TT, Cayman R, or Boxster Spyder, all of which are far more special and will likely appreciate to some extent. Or grab a 991 for the same or less. For a little bit more you're in 996 GT3 territory.

Deschodt 08-28-2017 02:44 PM

I totally agree Matt... (for real you can get a 997TT around 55 now? auction maybe?)

Which is why I went 991. I love the 997.2 but it felt "rough", smaller and noisier inside (not the good likd of noise)... Looked some more today, $55K for a 2009 is pretty common... Seems high to me.


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