Old stuff
 

Yesterday, I saw the oldest piece of art in the world, in the Israel Museum. A female figurine, created almost a quarter of a million years ago. OK, I gotta admit, that's old.

Other stuff dating to Christ's time, doesn't really impress me. Hell, I'm over a half century old. I have stuff in boxes over a century old. I have motorcycles nearly a half century old. If it just sits there in my garage, I don't see why it can't last a couple thousand years.

I also saw the dead sea scrolls. Call me jaded, but I don't really see the big deal.

Now, when something is a quarter million years old... that gets my attention. Its amazing that there is so little stuff on earth that has survived a lousy couple thousand years. Everything destroyed in the name of religion. Don't wanna PARF this up, but really makes you think about things...

I think that I just read a loose comparison between motorcycles and the dead sea scrolls. Cool.

Old stuff is interesting......on the news last night there was a short piece about excavating ancient ruins and it was a "red light" area they figured. Well what did they find.....a "martial aid" as we call them now. Leather wrapped with bristles on one end! My wife said hey look just like today's!

Some guy bought the scrolls in the '50s for $94. Motorbikes cost a lot more than that. Just saying'.

The Gods must be crazy

Now that was a great movie.

Laughed my ass off.

Everything? Were Hiroshima and Nagasaki destroyed in the name of religion?

Also don't want to PARF this up... but don't understand why folks around here post a religious/political opinion here and then want a pass by saying "don't want to parf this up"

Like if I posted "don't want to PARF this up but a certain political party are a bunch of morons."

Carry on...

Are you sure about the quarter of a million years? I thought the female figuring you might be referring to was more like 25K years old.

What's a decimal point position among friends?

People didn't used to acquire stuff to keep in their garage, and remembering that way back when, garages were called stables don't forget that stuff left in a stable didn't keep.

Indirectly they were - a lot of Japanese imperialism stemmed from the fanatical belief that the emperor (revered as a god) had to be honored by conquest. The war wasn't the direct result of religion but it certainly helped to ensure the fanatical loyalty of the Imperial army / navy.

Religion has always been a great tool for despots seeking to control the masses - particularly weak-minded masses.

I think it's cool that you are out there experiencing so much of the early history of western civilization. How does it feel to be in the presence of antiquity? So cool. Green with envy here...

Yeah, that's not PARF at all.

This REALLY made me chuckle! :D

I love old stuff too. You should go to Turkey, Search: Göbekli Tepe. It's on my radar.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1429401540.jpg

Close-up of the Bull-leaping fresco ca. 17th Century BC originally from Knossos Crete, Taken without a flash.

Ian

I had a very similar reaction when I first went to the old city. Growing up on the east coast I trips to Williamsburg, Cap Cod.. were pretty common. You know, really old stuff from the ~16-1700's. I wasnt prepared for what I saw in Jerusalem, really special place.

Other than Twinkies, what do you think will be left to find of our civilization in 25k years?

Porcelain toilets strewn everywhere.

Don't get me started. I'm still pissed off about the burning of the library in Alexandria.

Why yes many people got down on their knees and prayed to the Porcelain God, especially the morning after celebrating religiously on Friday and Saturday nights.

That was one of the worst tragedies of human kind.

Of all the things man has made over the millennia 90% of it does not exist anymore. So when you see something from 25,000 years ago it is quite special to have survived for so long.

What you don't understand is that it is a voice from the distant past. That piece was imbued with a voice that speaks directly to you, by the hands that made it 25,000 years ago

everything that is made by men has a voice that speaks to you if you only listen.

Radioactive waste.

No. Styrofoam.

Ian

Looks like approx 233,000 years old. That's amazing!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1430207626.jpg

Not a product of man, but north of San Francisco, there's a petrified forest of 2000 year old redwoods that were knocked down by a volcanic blast 250 million years ago...

So you photograph the text but NOT the artifact? http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...eys/paddel.gifhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...eys/paddel.gifhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...eys/paddel.gifhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...eys/paddel.gif

LOL Thats our Boy! I've seen deeper Cookie Sheets..

Hey a female figurine. There might be boobs! :)

ROFLMAO! I was just thinkin' the same thing!

Aaaaah....Motion?:p

Yeah, I get the connection. You can get kinky and ride that ancient woman figurine and can ride the old motorcycle.

Anyways, its no big deal having something really old. We have some dinosaur bits, fossils, meteorites, and for sculptures.... large pieces of polished petrified wood.

Enjoy your adventures!

So I did a search and here she is: 35mm tall, 25 mm wide, from basalt local to the area, and formed using flint (tool???) Pretty amazing.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1430284504.jpg

That was formed by tools?

Something I'm curious about is what they refer to as her "voluptuousness" Seems to me there probably weren't too many women or others for that matter, who would be able to enjoy that luxury a quarter of a million years ago. I'd imagine about 100% were faced with just getting enough food to stay alive. Maybe civilization was more advanced then than we think.

You guys give me way too much credit!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1430292913.jpg

Looks like something I made when I was a mere Lad playing with my shyte. I was so proud of myself that I said, "LooK Ma what I did." Why she got so mad at me that she smaked me so hard on the side of the haid that I saw stars for a week. I guess she didn't appreciate my creative talent?