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So many great ones already mentioned but one of my favorites is The Enemy at the Gates.

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One more good flick, The Great Santini! Eating Campbell's soup was never the same after that movie.

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Originally Posted by Baz (Post 8701161)

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^^ Good film that's never shown anymore.

Another good one rarely seen (with Rod Taylor): "Dark of the Sun". Sort of a Sam Peckinapah(ish) mercenary flick.

Burt Lancaster in the TRAIN is a good movie. Lancaster did his own stunts, and in the scene where he is running across the bridge limping was due to an injury he sustained during filming.

Also Is Paris Burning was a mid 60's telling of the fall and Liberation of Paris in 1944. Hitler told the commanding general of Paris to burn it down. However the general disobeyed his orders. The US Army stopped under orders and allowed the French Army to be the first to reenter the city.

The schmaltzy story line of Enemy At The Gates really trivialized the battle of Stalingrad. The real story was far more intriguing..

enemy at the gates was great until the last ten minutes. the wild west gunfight showdown between snipers was beyond stupid.

and i can't believe nobody's mentioned Red Dawn yet.

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Originally Posted by varmint (Post 8701902)

enemy at the gates was great until the last ten minutes. the wild west gunfight showdown between snipers was beyond stupid.

and i can't believe nobody's mentioned Red Dawn yet.

There really was a real life show down if you will between the 2 protagonists in the movie. The Russian sniper really did terrorize the Germans as he was taking out so many of them. The Germans to counter brought in the Commandant of their sniper school to get him. The Russians noticed that a lot of their people were being sniped in a particular sector, so they figured it was some one good so they brought in their best guy. It was just a war of a waiting for one or the other to make a mistake. One day the Russian sniper guy saw the glint off the lens of the Germans scope from under a sheet of tin, so the Russian sent a bullet his way, getting the German right through the scope lens and eye.

The battle of Stalingrad was like two rabid dogs, who had each other by the throats and neither would let go. It was brutal as Stalin said, "Not a step back." and in the process the Russians lost apx 1,000,000 men. The Germans for Hitlers folly lost some 250,000 the whole of their elite 6TH Army, of which 90,000 went into captivity and 5000 came home in 1955 (10 years after the war was over).

The Battle of Stalingrad did not signify that Germany would lose the war, as it turned out they had one more throw of the offensive dice at Kursk in the summer of 43. Which turned out to be the largest armored engagement in the war and in history. That battle was the drang and sturm of Titans.

The Russians during the war lost apx 20,000,000 dead the Germans apx 12,000,000...Think of it as the whole of the population of S Cal as just not being there anymore. The whole of Europe from the Atlantic ocean to Moscow and Stalingrad was the rubble of scorched earth.

there are questions as to whether a col koenig ever existed. but there was enough crazy **** going on in stalingrad at the time to let that slide.

however many germans zaitsev killed during the war, i guarantee they weren't standing face to face at twenty paces like the lone ranger and black bart.

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Originally Posted by varmint (Post 8702013)

There was a Col Koenig and he met his demise as stated in my above Post^^^^^

Historical authenticity[edit]
Zaytsev's personal account is the only source for the story. No other historical documentation exists and no second source for the events in question exists. None of the Germans mentioned by Zaitsev including König, König's daughter, or the German prisoner of war who Zaitsev says identified König have ever been identified in other records.

Zaytsev said that the duel took place over a period of three days in the ruins of Stalingrad.[1]

The story of the Soviet discovery of König's arrival came from a German soldier who had been interrogated by the Soviet forces (as stated in Zaytsev's memoirs). Also Zaytsev claims in his memoir to have found the enemy sniper in a run-down industrial area, finding him under a sheet of scrap metal by the glint of his enemy's rifle scope. He then claims to have taken the scope as a souvenir.

In his own memoirs, Zaytsev refers to him as being a German sniper named Herr Koning (Koning is Dutch for King, cognate to König in German), identified as the head of a sniper school in Berlin, by documents taken from his dead body.[citation needed] This is unconfirmed as German Heer personnel records make no mention of any German sniper called König or Koning. It was also stated by Zaytsev that the existence of König came from an unidentified German prisoner.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erwin_König

the way you wrote it, the way zaitsev wrote is is not the way it was shown in the movie. the movie ****ed it up. someone thought the had to make a dramatic face to face showdown. ultimately it made the ending cheesy.