Iq

[widgeon13]

"People of ordinary ability often achieve extraordinary results because they don't know enough to quit"......

or something to that extent.

[island911]

and then there's ...

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Originally Posted by Por_sha911

To me, IQ is and interesting evaluation that is best used to compare yourself to someone else. Hence, it is for validation. If you are content then what the heck does it matter.

IIRC, research has found that your EQ will determine your success in business and life more than your IQ.

I luv this^^^^^^. To quote Joh Lennon, "Your all fking tree dwelling creatures with tails as far as I can see." All you have to do to confirm this is to read PARF or listen to the news financial or political and these Boyz are indicative of the bestest and brightest leadership. Which reflects your EQ standing.

[ossiblue]

Originally Posted by Crowbob

Tell me friends, if my hypothesis is stoopid: It's best not to know.

Take me, for example. If my IQ turned out to be lower than I think it is, of course I'm bummed.

But if it turns out to be higher than I think it is, I'm bummed even worser.

Knowing is a no win as far as I'm concerned.

For me, ignorance of the matter is truly bliss.

Hence the conundrum, if you get my drift.

By not knowing my IQ, I can simultaneously consider myself an inspirational overachiever and a dismal failure. That seems a good strategery for getting through the day.

The downside is I'll never really know which I am. Which is also the upside.

Yup. Best not to know.

Agree?

A variation of Schrodinger's Cat (dealing with quantum physics.) See? You are smart!

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You know how u can see the expanse of the Milky Way in the night time sky when you are away from the city lights. That is what I see when I close my eyes while sitting quietly .



At this juncture of time and space I just don't feel like sharing anything more with anybody. I certainly don't have any satisfying conversations on the same level of cognitive acuity. What I seem to get back is a dumbfounded look of, "Huh? What the fk are you talking about."

Things are not going to work out exactly as I say they are. The end result will be pretty much the same but it will be a natural evolution of getting there gradually so as the changes go unnoticed. It will not be one day it is this and the next day that but a process of ever-changing facets towards the end as described. Ones position is much like that of a historian 200 years in the future looking back on this time and being able to see the what the end results are going to be

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I can say some very descriptive pejorative about BO, and it hurts me to have come to this. But what is this guy thinking, for without the USA there is no global economy. The US economy is so.large that it encompasses the world. With it's fingers and tentacles every where and in everything, it is the glue that holds it all together . Without the US all economies become local economies. The US with its expansive fiscal and monetary policies like a spider has sucked it's prey dry. The whole world is tottering on the brink of what is called a slow down

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Conservatives think that with the right leadership they can make America great again. But what they don't realize is that intervening time matters in that the complexion of America has changed. It is no longer the same place it once was and that place is irrevocably gone. Now you are faced with a new set of circumstances and challenges.

[jorian]

Lighten up Francis...

[creaturecat]

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile

I got tested years ago and got a good number that I'm proud of. I don't like bragging (so I won't post it) but I consider myself extremely fortunate and like Stan Lee would say, "with great power comes great responsibility". Because of this I feel pressured to do more than probably most people do - to do my part in proportion to the gifts I have with respect to leaving the world better than I found it. I've been fortunate enough to be born with the mental skills to do a lot and I get disappointed in myself if I feel I'm not living up to potential. Probably a lot of others on here can relate - this seems to be a "right side of the bell curve" kind of crowd here, generally speaking.

too funny. laugh of the day.

[Crowbob]

Originally Posted by ossiblue

A variation of Schrodinger's Cat (dealing with quantum physics.) See? You are smart!

Schrödinger and his cat were twice noted. Once by island back in #29 and here again. The interesting thing is how theoretical quantum physics lends validity to the paradox that two mutually exclusive states can exist simultaneously in the same space. Closer inspection further reveals that even when the box is opened, the paradox remains. How so? The opening of the box occurs at a different time.

If we rejoice that the cat still lives, we can deduce it never died. Thus answering only part of the question. However, if we are forced to decide upon the many uses of a now dead cat, the paradox survives. We can never know the state of the cat until the box is opened AND the cat is found alive.

As such, scientific inquiry (opening the box) may never fully answer the question so long as the universe exists (the cat is alive).

With regard to knowing one's own IQ, it appears not knowing is popular.

[oldE]

I discovered in grade 12 that IQ tests were graded taking time to complete the test into consideration.
One day after lunch, I realized a bathroom break before returning to class would have been a good idea. No problem, I would just get permission to leave the room for a few minutes.
Wrong. In walked the guidance counsellor and announced we were taking IQ tests. I asked for permission to leave but was denied. I would not be allowed to leave the room until I completed the test. The test was expected to take an hour. It's funny how that seems to increase the need.
I have benefited from reading quickly and knew I would have only a short time to avoid catastrophe.
I hit that test and went trough the entire thing in less than a half hour, passed it in and asked permission to leave. Granted!
A month later I was called to the counsellor's office and had my score revealed to me. The time factor boosted the score by about 30 points.
I didn't tell him why I had ripped through it so fast. It would have seemed dumb.

Best
Les

[tabs]

Why that explains it, while in school I didn't care what answer I put down and maybe that is the reason why I was placed in special education classes.

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The last IQ test that I took I worked slowly and methodically sometimes not finishing a section. After the allotted time I was allowed to finish. when the results came back my timed IQ was quiet a bit lower than the untimed one. So I was being penalized for working methodically.

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by tabs

Why that explains it, while in school I didn't care what answer I put down and maybe that is the reason why I was placed in special education classes.

Originally Posted by tabs

The last IQ test that I took I worked slowly and methodically sometimes not finishing a section. After the allotted time I was allowed to finish. when the results came back my timed IQ was quiet a bit lower than the untimed one. So I was being penalized for working methodically.

True story (and let me emphasize that I don't put a lot of importance on standardized tests - they measure your ability to take standardized tests imo ).

In elementary school, I didn't take tests seriously, and would make geometric patterns, etc. with my penciled in dots. So in 7th grade (Jr. high back then), I actually was in the middle-of-the-pack classes when I took the battery of aptitude tests seriously for the first time mid-year. Highest score in the city and in the 99th percentile on just about every section and it simply blew the school administrators away....how did this kid get so "misplaced" ? Took me by surprise too, though I had always been a gifted reader and was great in math. Of course I took them "for real" from then on as it became a contest of skill. Bottom line for me....WAY too much emphasis is placed upon test scores/grades.

This old saying is somewhat true in many cases:

The "A" students end up working for the "B" students (management) in companies owned by the "C" students

....but I've got no complaints either

IQ is just a number when all is said and done....YMMV

[tabs]

The untimed was 99TH percentile and was backed up by an earlier US. Army General Classification Alpha A Test which had a similar measurement.

Then u combine that with my EQ and tenacity

Combine a single minded endeavor to understand the Human Operating System with a high IQ over a 40 year time span. What u come up with is a person who can see for miles and miles in every direction.

No supposition, no ego just fact.

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by tabs

..... What u come up with is a person who can see for miles and miles in every direction.

No supposition, no ego just fact.

That's you Pete....

Who ?

[Porsche-O-Phile]

It seems a lot of people are confusing "intelligence" or "cognitive ability" with business acumen or moneymaking skills. Using myself as an example, I probably could've gone into finance and worked for Goldman Sachs if I wanted to but I simply have no interest in doing that - I wouldn't be satisfied and I'd always see it as selling myself short. I just never viewed moving pieces of paper around to make imaginary numbers on a balance sheet bigger as being a terribly inspiring pursuit. As I said earlier, "...with great power comes great responsibility". It saddens me to see so many of the "best and brightest" these days going into the financial services industry (which doesn't produce anything of value or create any lasting positive impact on the world - just consolidating wealth into a smaller class of wealthy oligarchs). I think the "brain drain" of bright people that could otherwise be doing scientific research, design, engineering or doing something entrepreneurial is one of the biggest wastes of resources imaginable and is a sad commentary on our societal values. Yes, economics matters but to a point. The brightest people should be allowed to use their skills to invent, create, imagine, dream and move us into preciously-chartered waters. I see the practice of law as very much the same way - a waste of a good intellect in too many cases, propping up a system built to preserve a status quo that benefits a select few only.

A lot of this is the direct result of capitalism and I accept it since all the known alternatives are a lot worse, but it's still somewhat disheartening. I wish it weren't so, but I understand why it is and why it needs to be. I'm just glad I get to do something I feel is (mostly) rewarding and will hopefully allow me to look back at the end of my days and feel like I accomplished something and am leaving the world a little bit better for my having been here. This is also why I really want to open my own practice and pursue the things I find exciting and am passionate about - not just keep cranking out more concrete and steel boxes (even nice ones!) simply because the wealthy developer I work for happens to make a lot of money off of it. Money is good but there are some things far more important - like a sense of real fulfillment and satisfaction that one has used their gifts for something that's at least a little bit noble and purposeful.

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Originally Posted by KC911

That's you Pete....

Who ?

I am the seeker who searches low and high.

[Por_sha911]

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile

I got tested years ago and got a good number that I'm proud of. I don't like bragging (so I won't post it) but I consider myself extremely fortunate and like Stan Lee would say, "with great power comes great responsibility". Because of this I feel pressured to do more than probably most people do - to do my part in proportion to the gifts I have with respect to leaving the world better than I found it. I've been fortunate enough to be born with the mental skills to do a lot and I get disappointed in myself if I feel I'm not living up to potential. Probably a lot of others on here can relate - this seems to be a "right side of the bell curve" kind of crowd here, generally speaking.

You forgot to mention how humble you are. Greatness is such a heavy cross to bear.

[cashflyer]

I've not taken an IQ test since high school, but I can count to potato.