Ever been dead?

[creaturecat]

Originally Posted by Scott R

I was "dead" for about two minuets in the ER a while back following an accident. Honestly there was nothing, just lights out and nothing else. When I was revived I came right back to all my worldly problems and resumed life.

But for the time I was gone I didn't exist, just nothing. Much like getting punched out in the ring. When I woke up it was a bit disappointing, because in darkness I'm certain nothing mattered. And if I had stayed that way I would not have ever known.

Sorry no "religious experiences" (maybe because I'm not religious) but I would not be broken up if it happened again since I consider it a positive experience.

Anyone else?

How did this experience effect you, re: moving forward?

[rfloz]

Several years ago I went to the dentist for a routine deep cleaning. The idiot dentist injected "Novocain" directly into a vein. I passed out and then came back. Then everything just went black (sorry, no angels).

This was not like the afore-mentioned passing out, which was a fade to red, narrowing of vision kind of event. It was just near instant blackness.

I woke up to find a paramedic pounding on my chest.

The EMTs, luckily at the hospital across the street, got there very quickly and hooked up a heart monitor as they were treating me. They gave me a printout showing my heart going Bradycardia (very fast, uncontrolled heart beat) and then flat-line for 15 seconds. I still have the printout for any doubters.

The Bradycardia was caused by the epinephrine in the "Novocain".

Granted, 15 seconds isn't long, but, without the EMTs, it would probably have been forever.



FWIE, "Novocain" in the old-time name for topical dental anesthetic. I forget the current name. Brain damage maybe.

[island911]

Originally Posted by Scott R

I was "dead" for about two minuets in the ER a while back following an accident. Honestly there was nothing, just lights out and nothing else. When I was revived I came right back to all my worldly problems and resumed life.

But for the time I was gone I didn't exist, just nothing. Much like getting punched out in the ring. When I woke up it was a bit disappointing, because in darkness I'm certain nothing mattered. And if I had stayed that way I would not have ever known.

Sorry no "religious experiences" (maybe because I'm not religious) but I would not be broken up if it happened again since I consider it a positive experience.

Anyone else?

Similar, post Sx. Except while I was in some state of being only aware of my lack of breathing, and the difficulty doing so, I had a certain peace in the idea of just going to death. ...until I thought of those who would really be PO'd if I did. But in that previous moment, dying felt quite natural. ...appropriate.

Our bodies have a certain fragility, and yet life is so obviously tenacious. And, it is what it is, no matter what your belief.

[Rikao4]

close is the best I can do..
bad boboo has me laying on the ER table..
Priest in attendance...
don't remember it..
he told me about it later..

seems I suddenly sat up ..
and informed everyone..
I'm not ready..
and then the morphine or something kicked in..
no lights..no voices..
just painless bliss..

Rika

[love911]

Originally Posted by rfloz

Several years ago I went to the dentist for a routine deep cleaning. The idiot dentist injected "Novocain" directly into a vein. I passed out and then came back. Then everything just went black (sorry, no angels).

This was not like the afore-mentioned passing out, which was a fade to red, narrowing of vision kind of event. It was just near instant blackness.

I woke up to find a paramedic pounding on my chest.

The EMTs, luckily at the hospital across the street, got there very quickly and hooked up a heart monitor as they were treating me. They gave me a printout showing my heart going Bradycardia (very fast, uncontrolled heart beat) and then flat-line for 15 seconds. I still have the printout for any doubters.

The Bradycardia was caused by the epinephrine in the "Novocain".

Granted, 15 seconds isn't long, but, without the EMTs, it would probably have been forever.



FWIE, "Novocain" in the old-time name for topical dental anesthetic. I forget the current name. Brain damage maybe.

Lost a High scholl classmate in 1988 for the same reason above.During summer recess, He went to a routine dental work(I think tooth extraction ) and never woke up, Dead,Gone.

[J P Stein]

NO........but I'm workin' on it.

[Por_sha911]

Originally Posted by M.D. Holloway

I just wish all those who believe in the myth would someday wake up but sadly I don't see it happening.

Gosh, it sounds like you are upset that other people are happy with their faith. That seems rather selfish. Why not just let them be happy in their deluded (according to your opinion) state?
BTW, shouldn't your opinion be more suited in PARF?

[island911]

+1 to Joe. When one's mental-model of their existence is nothing more than an action/reaction bio-machine, then why go out of your way to say "you're believing it wrong." ?

Anyone truly convinced that we are nothing but action/reaction bio-machines would just shrug, safe in their belief that there is nothing else. Yet here we are, with more people upset that people believe ____ than there are people pushing religion. (shrug) I suppose it's culturally safer to say people are wrong to believe in something other than, and beyond, science.

Pay no attention to the MASSIVE shortcomings of science. If science doesn't explain it, it doesn't exist, donncha know...

[tangerine911S]

No death experiences here but somethig relevent that often occurs to me that all forms of life adapt to hardships that make them more tolerable but death is the one thing that cannot be adapted to. If there's pain in the final moments (e.i you're an animal being eaten), coping mechanisms cannot evolve. Evolution requires that you be alive to pass on any physiological learnings.

[flatbutt]

15 years ago when my spinal cord hyper-flexed at C4/5 in a car crash. Woke up to a medic saying He's back. All I remember clearly is someone in the car saying "I'll stay with you". But the first aid squad said the car was flattened and no one could get into it. I had to be cut out. Reality? Hallucination? I don't know.

[john70t]

Originally Posted by rfloz

FWIE, "Novocain" in the old-time name for topical dental anesthetic. I forget the current name. Brain damage maybe.

Lidocaine?

[John Rogers]

When I had my quad heart bypass surgery a year ago in May 2014, the anesthesiologist had a talk with me about the possible things that can happen including never waking up I.E. death as she put it. I said I was okay with that since I had done more than I ever had wanted or planed to do including kids, grand kids and great grand kids and had won at everything I had ever tried to do. She was shocked and it took me a while to convince her I wasn't crazy......So anyways on the surgery day all went well and it went from watching the 100 inch display to waking up with all the kids around hugging and crying and such! The time I was "away" was just black and I had no idea I had been on an external heart machine for 45 minutes or so while all the work was done.

I figure that is the way to go if necessary since I have a bad adversion to any kind of pain so just "turn off the lights"!

[M.D. Holloway]

Originally Posted by Por_sha911

Gosh, it sounds like you are upset that other people are happy with their faith. That seems rather selfish. Why not just let them be happy in their deluded (according to your opinion) state?
BTW, shouldn't your opinion be more suited in PARF?

Not upset. From what I have witnessed folks take the after life as a trump card and don't put in the work while we they are around - dying for a cause so to speak. While we all pound chests and say that we would die for our country and God, why not live for it and create peace?

If we all knew, really knew that there was nothing after we die, would we live the way we do? I don't think so. I think people would take better care of their bodies, minds, families and maybe others. In the long run we would all be better off. We would be more into the present with a eye on the future to maintain as healthy a life and society as possible.

This concept of heaven is a scapegoat IMO...

[pavulon]

Intra-vascular injection (injection directly into a vein or artery) or over-administration of local anesthetics can result in a range of problems from relatively small to catastrophic.

People tend to experience exposure to local anesthetics most frequently in dental offices and so tend to experience most of their side-effects and complications in dental offices.

Local anesthetic systemic toxicity occurs when local anesthetic medications do their "thing" on the nerves in your brain and/or the nerves in your heart. Enough local anesthetic makes it slow way down or stop. Long or short-acting local anesthetics don't discriminate and perform as advertised and can make for a long or relatively short resuscitation. Oddly enough, IV lipids (fat) is bacon saver in these situation.

Local anesthetic medications can also can induce a seizure or more when enough hits the brain in a short time.

Anesthesia and surgery folks use it in very large doses/volumes and can also have a Maalox moment if things go unintended directions.

More information here:

Medscape: Medscape Access

Originally Posted by rfloz

Several years ago I went to the dentist for a routine deep cleaning. The idiot dentist injected "Novocain" directly into a vein. I passed out and then came back. Then everything just went black (sorry, no angels).

This was not like the afore-mentioned passing out, which was a fade to red, narrowing of vision kind of event. It was just near instant blackness.

I woke up to find a paramedic pounding on my chest.

The EMTs, luckily at the hospital across the street, got there very quickly and hooked up a heart monitor as they were treating me. They gave me a printout showing my heart going Bradycardia (very fast, uncontrolled heart beat) and then flat-line for 15 seconds. I still have the printout for any doubters.

The Bradycardia was caused by the epinephrine in the "Novocain".

Granted, 15 seconds isn't long, but, without the EMTs, it would probably have been forever.



FWIE, "Novocain" in the old-time name for topical dental anesthetic. I forget the current name. Brain damage maybe.

[VINMAN]

I had a case Friday, 51 y/o male found dead at home. Guy was laying back in his recliner, still holding a cup in his hand. Looked like he was still sleeping.

I said, damn that's how I want to go. Just fall asleep and that's it.


.

[Scott R]

Originally Posted by creaturecat

How did this experience effect you, re: moving forward?

Probably not in they way you would think. I revisited my will with my attorney, and changed some guidelines on how my trust would be passed to my son. Mainly in regards to who would execute his trust in my absence.

Nothing religious however, never been my thing. I can say with great certainly now that I don't feel any fear about death.

[Por_sha911]

Originally Posted by M.D. Holloway

Not upset. From what I have witnessed folks take the after life as a trump card and don't put in the work while we they are around - dying for a cause so to speak. While we all pound chests and say that we would die for our country and God, why not live for it and create peace?

If we all knew, really knew that there was nothing after we die, would we live the way we do? I don't think so. I think people would take better care of their bodies, minds, families and maybe others. In the long run we would all be better off. We would be more into the present with a eye on the future to maintain as healthy a life and society as possible.

This concept of heaven is a scapegoat IMO...

You've got it "bass ackwards". The SOB that lies cheats and steals thinks there is nothing after this life so better get what you can regardless of the pain he causes others. I think that people would be more kind and loving if they understood that they are going to answer for the things they do in this life. You can get away with it here but there is an all seeing God that doesn't grade on a curve and Johnny Cochran won't be able to plea bargain you a better deal.

The concept of no afterlife is wishing and hoping you won't have to answer for your actions. Whistling past the graveyard.

[Scott R]

There is nothing afterwards, it's just lights out. Been there, done that. Don't kid yourself, enjoy the here and now it's all you get.

[Por_sha911]

Originally Posted by Scott R

There is nothing afterwards, it's just lights out. Been there, done that. Don't kid yourself, enjoy the here and now it's all you get.

There's proof to what I just said.

[Scott R]

Originally Posted by Por_sha911

There's proof to what I just said.

No, not really.