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faverymi 03-30-2016 02:22 AM

Interesting video comparing different porsches.SC Turbo Boxster 996
 
Don't know the people.
Actually driven all those cars.

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onewhippedpuppy 03-30-2016 03:30 AM

Interesting, albeit poorly produced, video. Not super surprising, on a track with long straights I think the 930 would have beaten the Boxster but still probably not passed the 996. The 996 has similar power to weight, no lag, and the benefit of 15 years worth of development and technology.

I've driven all of them, and owned plenty of 986s and 996s. Both are screaming deals for what you get, especially the 986 Boxster which is fantastic to drive. Someday I suspect another 986 or 996 will join my SC in the garage.

Just an aside, if you are going to market your cars in a Youtube video, make sure they are sorted first. All were filthy with lots of swirls in the paint, the 986 top was in terrible shape and didn't fit correctly and the 911SC badge was about to fall off.

Seahawk 03-30-2016 03:32 AM

Very enjoyable. Thanks for posting that.

Shaun @ Tru6 03-30-2016 04:26 AM

How do you think your Boxster would fair Felipe? :D

GH85Carrera 03-30-2016 04:38 AM

It would interesting to add a stock 1985 959 to a test like that. Almost everyone in 85 was astonished at the fantastic performance of the 959. It is now beyond crazy money expensive. I suspect a new 991 Turbo from 2016 would outperform the 959 by a lot except maybe for top speed. 31 years of technology is impossible to beat.

Was there any street car made in the mid 80s or before than can beat the lap times of a new Porsche 911?

widgeon13 03-30-2016 04:39 AM

Looks to me like the SC lost a little time right off the line.

faverymi 03-30-2016 04:44 AM

I'm not a super driver but my boxster makes me look really fast and it's just too easy. When I drive the old aircooled stuff I feel slow, twitchy, raw but it's sooo much fun.

I was surprised the 930 didn't perform better. Maybe the track or the driver.

And I agree if you are showcasing your vehicles they should be in better condition

Shaun @ Tru6 03-30-2016 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 9058772)

Was there any street car made in the mid 80s or before than can beat the lap times of a new Porsche 911?

I think an 87-89 928 could best a 996 on the track. Just a guess though.

onewhippedpuppy 03-30-2016 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 9058790)
I think an 87-89 928 could best a 996 on the track. Just a guess though.

928S4 is similar power but heavier, 996 is 10+ years better developed, I would put my money on the 996.

Seahawk 03-30-2016 06:36 AM

I do know one thing.

When my Dad bought his 1993 RX7 I was living in a place called Cobb Island, Maryland.

The road from HWY 301 to Cobb Island was really well done, with beautiful sweepers, straights, etc.

Late one night my Dad and I decided on a quick test: His RX7 versus my 1983 911SC.

GO!

That was about the last I saw of him:)

Shaun @ Tru6 03-30-2016 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 9058896)
928S4 is similar power but heavier, 996 is 10+ years better developed, I would put my money on the 996.

Here's a fun and interesting thread on the topic.

928 handling vs. 911 - Rennlist Discussion Forums

Bob Kontak 03-30-2016 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by widgeon13 (Post 9058774)
Looks to me like the SC lost a little time right off the line.

Agree. Half second.

Narrator was a little windy. Snap over-steer for the 930? Horse pucky. All but the Boxster will demonstrate profound "trailing throttle" over-steer but you have to cook a corner and then be ignorant. I have and I was. It happens faster than I ever imagined it could, even on the newest of rear engine Porsches. They ain't twitchy, though.

Put the Stig in these cars with some seat time and I bet the 930 would come out ahead of the Boxster on that track.

Boxster is a joy to drive fast.

onewhippedpuppy 03-30-2016 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 9059759)
Here's a fun and interesting thread on the topic.

928 handling vs. 911 - Rennlist Discussion Forums

Can't really argue, I think if you could get the weight out of a 928 it would be very competitive. Of course at that point it's not really apples to apples, because you're racing a 996 that still has a full interior, A/C, power windows, power locks, etc......

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 9059865)
Agree. Half second.

Narrator was a little windy. Snap over-steer for the 930? Horse pucky. All but the Boxster will demonstrate profound "trailing throttle" over-steer but you have to cook a corner and then be ignorant. I have and I was. It happens faster than I ever imagined it could, even on the newest of rear engine Porsches. They ain't twitchy, though.

Put the Stig in these cars with some seat time and I bet the 930 would come out ahead of the Boxster on that track.

Boxster is a joy to drive fast.

The 986 is a superb driving car, but that track definitely favored a lightweight mid-engined configuration. It looked to have very little in the way of straights, so the 930 probably didn't spend much time on boost. A longer track with more high speed sections would probably flip that time difference pretty quickly.

Bob Kontak 03-30-2016 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 9059874)
It looked to have very little in the way of straights, so the 930 probably didn't spend much time on boost.

To be honest, I was picturing the Yellowbird at Nurburgring which is different.

Beer has been consumed. I stand down. :D

onewhippedpuppy 03-30-2016 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 9059887)
To be honest, I was picturing the Yellowbird at Nurburgring which is different.

Beer has been consumed. I stand down. :D

Few statements in bench racing are absolute. But I can say, with absolute certainty, that a Ruf Yellowbird can best a 1997 Boxster around a track. With that bombshell dropped, I will go to bed.:D

Bill Douglas 03-30-2016 08:36 PM

It was nice to see, and I'm quite surprised, to see the SC do so well.

Yay, go SC!

I wonder how Joe Average SC would do (ROW 204HP, 964 cam, SSIs, a bit of weight loss...)?

Nickshu 03-31-2016 03:40 AM

Cool. That Renstall place went up right near my Greeley office about a year ago. I heard it was started by a long-time PCA racer/instructor guy, but don't know him. I drive by all the time, but I have yet to stop in. They have some cool looking cars there all the time. I was surprised to watch the video and see "Rennstall Greeley, CO" on all the cars. Guess it's time to swing by and check it out.

They have a cool website: http://www.rennstall-usa.com/

Shaun @ Tru6 03-31-2016 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 9059874)
Can't really argue, I think if you could get the weight out of a 928 it would be very competitive. Of course at that point it's not really apples to apples, because you're racing a 996 that still has a full interior, A/C, power windows, power locks, etc......

But you are still driving a 996. :D

911SauCy 03-31-2016 04:52 AM

I was done when the "pro" bucked the SC off the line...

If that guy is a "Pro Driver", I'm Ayrton Senna.

Then, again, those don't look like great tires...

OneWhipped, I'm with you on the presentation of the cars.

Gogar 03-31-2016 06:41 AM

Sure are a lot of video producers and professional drivers in here

stomachmonkey 03-31-2016 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 9059887)
To be honest, I was picturing the Yellowbird at Nurburgring which is different.

Beer has been consumed. I stand down. :D

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onewhippedpuppy 03-31-2016 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gogar (Post 9060225)
Sure are a lot of video producers and professional drivers in here

Everyone on the internet is!

Charles Freeborn 03-31-2016 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 9060247)
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While an impressive display of driving and car, I would never in a million years do that on a track with other vehicles and without safety equipment. That amount of induced oversteer is not the fastest way around a track either.

onewhippedpuppy 03-31-2016 12:24 PM

I think the only positive is that by maintaining the same short track and less than incredible driver, at least the results are consistent.

Nickshu 03-31-2016 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 9060279)
Everyone on the internet is!

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sammyg2 03-31-2016 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 9058790)
I think an 87-89 928 could best a 996 on the track. Just a guess though.

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