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Heel n Toe 06-01-2016 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 9141754)
...The other issue is the weird and unavailable tire size installed originally on the 533/535 cars. The rims need to be changed to regular old 16 or 17" BMW rims and tires.

Looks like the owner of the car in the OP has already addressed that issue, jyl... those look like the 16" Style 29 wheels that are on my '99 528.

If you end up going with a different 535 and it doesn't have 16" or 17" wheels, just know you can buy Style 29's all day long on the BMW forums because so many of those guys are anxious to go to 18" (and up) wheels... and they sell their 29's to help pay for them if they don't keep them for winter tires.

jyl 06-01-2016 05:26 AM

What's the good BMW forum . . . ?

Sarc 06-01-2016 12:14 PM

For E28s,

www.mye28.com

greglepore 06-01-2016 06:48 PM

The biggest automotive mistake of my life was selling my E28 M5. That car was darn near perfect (other than the brake rotor consumption).

Heel n Toe 06-01-2016 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyl (Post 9142771)
What's the good BMW forum . . . ?

Sometimes you'll find yourself weeding through a lot of young'uns' comments/posts here, but you can find what you're looking for with a little perseverance:

5 Series (E12, E28, E34, E39, E60, E61)

For sale section (runs the gamut between beaters and creampuffs):

BMW Cars for Sale - Bimmerforums | Panjo

Goducks 06-02-2016 05:51 AM

JYL,
I'm Eddie's friend in Seattle with the 535iS.

It's getting ready to sell, not yet listed. Here are a few things about it.
1987, 5 speed 134,000 on clock. Salmon Silver.
US car with Euro bumpers, headlights, Hartge front spoiler with e34 M5 throwing stars.
Motor built, ~35k mi. Miller MAF, Schrick cam, balanced, ported, etc. Spec clutch. diff is OS Giken. Battery relocated to trunk with OEM M5 trim.
Coilovers w camber plates, custom Bilsteins, adj. sway-bars, adj. rear subframe, Scheel front seats, e24 M6 rear buckets (2+2) all in gray leather with Alcantara inserts. Fronts have pocket for 5pt harness. Factory glass moon roof insert. New windshield.
Most interior is M5 dyed black, factory euro option leather dash, door caps and B pillars. Kenwood deck with BT, front usb, upgraded speakers, amp...
AC blows cold, occasional fan noise.

That's me in front on the corkscrew above.

I need to take current pictures.

Walt

Sarc 06-02-2016 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by greglepore (Post 9143913)
The biggest automotive mistake of my life was selling my E28 M5. That car was darn near perfect (other than the brake rotor consumption).

The ship has definitely sailed on those. The EAG affect?

http://www.mye28.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=139455

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...psbyzjlusl.jpg

speeder 06-02-2016 09:14 AM

Think I posted this before but ran into this one in DTLA recently, Euro 535is sharing parking spot w my 1981 R100RS. :)http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1464883958.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1464883971.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1464883987.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1464883997.jpg

When they are nice, they're realllly nice. :cool:

intakexhaust 06-02-2016 09:30 AM

The OP listed 535i does have character but don't count on escaping the usual wear and tear. How much $$ is needed to keep it up? Since it was mentioned you no longer want to wrench or DIY, steer clear from BMW franchise and find a good independent. You'll still dump money into it but shouldn't be too bad.

They do suck fuel though. The eta motor 528 would be less entertaining but grunt along just fine. I wouldn't mind one of those slugs today. As for the A/C.... not the most efficient. I recall those days but maybe its just me and others had better luck. Probably would look into a complete upgrade in that topic.

As for an '88 M5. Sign me up, even with the extra maintenance.

Good luck!

Shaun @ Tru6 06-02-2016 09:32 AM

Given the pricing of early M5s, can you build one from a 535i for less cash, more time invested? I missed out on one for $10K a few years ago.

intakexhaust 06-02-2016 09:41 AM

Depending on your state or city EPA controls, one possible benefit is escaping emission test. No OBD to fit those connectors..lol. When all the OEM stuff on it fails, pull the rest of it. Hollow the cat and insert a thru pipe. Let that 6 banger breath and rev like it should.

willtel 06-02-2016 10:20 AM

https://c8.staticflickr.com/5/4063/4...4e837a12_z.jpg5 Series by willtel, on Flickr
https://c7.staticflickr.com/5/4104/4...66dac014_z.jpgBumperless 5 Series by willtel, on Flickr

greglepore 06-02-2016 12:01 PM

Eag?

willtel 06-02-2016 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by greglepore (Post 9144924)
Eag?

Enthusiast Auto Group Cincinnati Performance BMW Center

They buy up many M cars for sale and sell them on at a premium.

eddie914 06-02-2016 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by eddie914 View Post
You need to see the car ... STUNNING!

So let's see it!
__________________http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1464905235.jpg

Sarc 06-02-2016 05:15 PM

How about a clean E23? This is a great example tweaked by Ron Perry.
Those seats...
1983 BMW 745i Turbo | Bring a Trailer

greglepore 06-02-2016 06:17 PM

Tasty.

Shaun @ Tru6 06-02-2016 06:19 PM

I sold a friend's 86 to a BMW afficionado and he raved about those big turbo engines. I'll have to ask him again but I think he said there's a ton of hp to be had in them.

eddie914 06-02-2016 08:54 PM

... at least there is a VW in the background ...http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1464926060.jpg

pavulon 06-03-2016 04:11 AM

Yours?

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie914 (Post 9145724)
... at least there is a VW in the background ...http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1464926060.jpg


Robert Adams 06-03-2016 04:58 AM

Know this isn't even on the radar, but I drove one of these for almost 8 years as a daily driver up until 5 years ago. Took it up to about 180k and sold it because I got long hood fever and bought a 73.5. Couldn't keep both. But smile per mile an S2 was by far the most fun care to drive I have ever experienced.

All I can say is go drive one!!!
porsche 944 s-2

MAKE SURE THERE ARE RECEIPTS & THE BELT AND ROLLERS HAVE BEEN DONE.
My S2 got around 30mpg, had the std 911 electric heated seats and the AC was very effective.

Robert Adams 06-03-2016 05:27 AM

Don't see many of theses in this shape.
1972 BMW Bavaria

Otter74 06-03-2016 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Adams (Post 9145908)
Don't see many of theses in this shape.
1972 BMW Bavaria

Dangit, I don't need temptation like that!!

jyl 06-03-2016 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Adams (Post 9145908)
Don't see many of theses in this shape.
1972 BMW Bavaria

Stunning!

Would you be turned off by it being something of a Frankenbeemer, or at least not stock? Like, how well was that wiring harness documented.

Robert Adams 06-03-2016 10:38 AM

In this case, having an updated engine & drive train, etc might be a +, especially for a DD. Just be concerned all the proper docs are there and know what you're getting. Definitely a PPI is in order.

eddie914 06-03-2016 11:05 AM

Pavulon,

Yes the VWporsche and the M5 are both mine ...

Robert Adams 06-03-2016 11:22 AM

another shinny object!

1985 Bmw 635csi

Heel n Toe 06-03-2016 02:41 PM

If you can't find an older 5-series that you like, drive at least one E39... recently posted in technical section...

...the best car ever featured on Top Gear also happens to be the car I’d put forward as the best car ever made. In the world.

::: snip :::

You see, I used to own a 528i myself – a saloon which I bought in 2011, with 120,000 miles on the clock and finished in a dubious shade of pale metallic green known by BMW as Glacier Green.

It had a difficult task on its hand when it arrived. A lifelong BMW sceptic, I’d been persuaded into buying one by some BMW-loving colleagues who’d touted its various merits and described the E39 as “the best car in the world”.

Well, blow me down if they weren’t right. Even with its considerable mileage, my 528i still felt tight as a button. It was spacious, comfortable, fast, smooth, rode beautifully, handled deftly, and looked great. It even managed deeply respectable fuel economy, bettering a friend’s 1.6-litre Volkswagen Golf on a long run.

I drove it everywhere. I put 30,000 miles on it in the two years I had it, and those miles included a trip across to Austria in the depths of January, shod with winter tyres. It crossed a mountain pass in a blizzard; the temperature outside was -20C, but the BMW pressed on without breaking stride, all the while warming our posteriors with its heated seats.


More: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/top-gear/why-top-gears-greatest-ever-car-was-a-1500-bmw-banger/

Also: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/bmw-5-series-e28-e34-e39-e60-f10-gt/916058-5-series-bmw-any-high-mileage-users-here.html#post9143456

jyl 06-07-2016 09:36 PM

Is there a big step down in desirability from E28 to E34?

A decent looking E34 M5 just sold in Portland for $16K. Isn't this well below what a similar condition E28 M5 would go for?. Why is that?
1991 BMW M5 | Bring a Trailer

Adam 06-08-2016 04:01 AM

I currently have one of each - an '85 E28 and an '89 E34.

The E28 is a lowly Euro/Aus market only 520i (M20, 2.0 inline six) and the E34 is a 535i 5-speed with LSD, factory Recaro/Sport seats and a few other interesting options. I picked them both up for a song and have been stockpiling conversion parts. The E28 is a gem, a true survivor, yet the E34 is a bit scruffy and a great organ donor.

In August, I will be removing the drivetrain from both cars and fitting the M30B35 (and the Motronic 1.3) to the E28, along with the 5-speed and swapping the LSD into the E28's 3.9:1 R&P. I have a genuine M-Technik bodykit waiting for it and will be re-trimming the interior. I have a set of coilovers to go in, too. Will part out the E34 as I go. So many parts are interchangable. I'm harvesting brakes, trailing arms, cooling system, everything. Tempted to try to retro-fit the E34's ABS to the E28 also...

This will be my 3rd E28 - I simply love these cars.

Shaun @ Tru6 06-08-2016 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyl (Post 9151721)
Is there a big step down in desirability from E28 to E34?

A decent looking E34 M5 just sold in Portland for $16K. Isn't this well below what a similar condition E28 M5 would go for?. Why is that?
1991 BMW M5 | Bring a Trailer

That's the one that Eric's friend is selling.

Shaun @ Tru6 06-08-2016 04:55 AM

I would consider this M5.

https://providence.craigslist.org/cto/5617000376.html

Sarc 06-08-2016 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyl (Post 9151721)
Is there a big step down in desirability from E28 to E34?

A decent looking E34 M5 just sold in Portland for $16K. Isn't this well below what a similar condition E28 M5 would go for?. Why is that?
1991 BMW M5 | Bring a Trailer

Are you talking strictly M's or overall?

For the M's, the E28 is raw. Communicative. Visceral. The E34 is heftier and more isolated...compared to the E28. Compared to modern cars, it still makes for a desirable enthusiastic experience. Though not as "desirable" as an E28 in collector circles, I presume values will go up eventually.

For non-Ms, its the same thought, just at a slower pace. E28s are fairly small by today's standards and their interior materials (and ergonomics) feel dated. E34s are quite robust (if you can find one without 200K+ miles) and like many early 90s cars, bridge that gap between vintage experience with modern drive-ability. Styling on both by Ercole Spada/Claus Luthe, but the E34 has held up well to these eyes.

I was fortunate to grow up with an E28 M5 (12 years/220K miles) and a E34 540i/6 (10 years/180K miles) in the family. Both great cars.

Same sausage, but a little larger are E23 and E32 7 series. We had a couple of those too. A different story for another day....

speeder 06-08-2016 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 9151885)

You have got to be kidding...an east coast/Canadian POS that has sat outside for several years by the seller's admission and has a badly cracked dash and other wear for $27k??

Life is too short for POS cars. The only intelligent way to buy a car like this is to buy the best possible example you can find. And I'm not even sure that is very intelligent but any alternative is just moron time.

Shaun @ Tru6 06-08-2016 10:30 AM

Lol!

speeder 06-08-2016 10:31 AM

An e34 was a huge evolutionary step for BMW at the time and a much nicer car by any objective measure. They are a lot better looking to my eye and also on the right side of the value:quality curve.

And I am someone who likes e28s and has owned several. Also, either car in an M5 is not a driver or usable car for transportation purposes. It would be cheaper to lease a new M5.

greglepore 06-08-2016 11:13 AM

That Providence car was either posted as s joke or I'm way out of touch on values.
Aa to the various generations each got heavier and added features and power. Nothing has the perfect balance of the e28 but it is long in the tooth now. Still would drive one daily though. Great seats, visibility like nothing else and reasonable a/c.


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speeder 06-08-2016 01:17 PM

I'd daily drive a nice e28 as well but not an M5. But I'm a serious DIY guy who is addicted to projects and fixing/perfecting things. For the checkbook owner, the math probably doesn't work.

Shifter 06-08-2016 01:19 PM

Are e21's off the radar?

https://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/5619380447.html

sammyg2 06-08-2016 01:28 PM

When I am looking for a DD car, these are the things I consider:

1) RELIABILITY. need to get there, every time, don't want to work on it ever, don't want it in the shop ever.
2) comfort. It has to be comfortable for that hour long drive home every day.
3) lasts a long time. Ir has to be trouble-free and still comfortable for 100,000 miles or more.
4) reasonably priced /good value.


a 30 year old beemer falls into exactly NONE of those categories.


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