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Rusty Heap 02-27-2017 08:55 AM

Volvo vs Power Pole
 
Power Pole winner 1
Volvo loser 0
Fire hydrant 0

Driver 000

:eek:


dare to guess high speed was involved?
:rolleyes:



1 killed after car hits utility pole in Kirkland | KOMO

sammyg2 02-27-2017 11:43 AM

But volvos are safe cars.

LakeCleElum 02-27-2017 11:52 AM

Good tires, certainly not great tires:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1488225146.jpg

Nickshu 02-27-2017 11:57 AM

Has to be a lot of speed there? 60+??

GH85Carrera 02-27-2017 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 9490405)
But volvos are safe cars.


And the LAWS of physics always work whether the driver believes it or not. 100% of the time all the time 24/7 356. OK, in the world of quantum physics things get a little weird but that does not apply to cars.

Nickshu 02-27-2017 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 9490476)
And the LAWS of physics always work whether the driver believes it or not. 100% of the time all the time 24/7 356. OK, in the world of quantum physics things get a little weird but that does not apply to cars.

Just like having 4WD does not overcome the coefficient of friction just because more wheels are driving.

Or as my Dad always told me as a teen driver...it's 4 wheel drive, not 4 wheel stop :D

aap1966 02-27-2017 03:13 PM

All Wheel Drive = Hit the tree at higher speed
4 Wheel Drive= Get Stuck further from help.


But, in all seriousness, what sort of speed is required to produce that result? Any LEO / EMDs prepared to chip in?

MRM 02-27-2017 04:34 PM

It was probably 100+ to wrap the frame around the pole and break off the rear axel like that. It's hard to tell without seeing the skid marks.

sammyg2 02-27-2017 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gh85carrera (Post 9490476)
and the laws of physics always work whether the driver believes it or not. 100% of the time all the time 24/7 356. Ok, in the world of quantum physics things get a little weird but that does not apply to cars.

356? ;)

HardDrive 02-27-2017 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRM (Post 9490771)
It was probably 100+ to wrap the frame around the pole and break off the rear axel like that. It's hard to tell without seeing the skid marks.

Yup.

Nickshu 02-27-2017 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcar (Post 9490791)
But, it IS '4 wheel stop' though. All 4 wheels have brakes.

But 4WD also only has 4 wheel brakes.

LOL let me know how that works out for ya with all 4 wheels on ice.

It's meant to be a figure of speech if you couldn't tell.

David 02-27-2017 05:20 PM

Compared to that car, my 997 had a little scratch after hitting a light pole on the driver's door at a good clip, so I'm thinking well over 100 mph for the Volvo crash

wdfifteen 02-27-2017 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 9490476)
And the LAWS of physics always work whether the driver believes it or not. 100% of the time all the time 24/7 356. OK, in the world of quantum physics things get a little weird but that does not apply to cars.

You mean a car cannot be simultaneously wrapped around a pole and not wrapped around a pole?

wdfifteen 02-27-2017 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickshu (Post 9490593)

Or as my Dad always told me as a teen driver...it's 4 wheel drive, not 4 wheel stop :D

Yes, and that's a trap I have let myself fall into. I get lured into out driving my stopping power by 4 wd "go" power.

Holger 02-28-2017 04:00 AM

By the look of the rear lights it seems to have been a non stock car.

widgeon13 02-28-2017 07:01 AM

Pretty sad result I would imagine.

Esel Mann 02-28-2017 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David (Post 9490860)
Compared to that car, my 997 had a little scratch after hitting a light pole on the driver's door at a good clip, so I'm thinking well over 100 mph for the Volvo crash

I'm going contrarian and putting in 55 for the win as everyone has gone over. :D

The car is still around the pole. 100 should have sliced it into two pieces.

widebody911 02-28-2017 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 9490790)
356? ;)

Yup, whether it's a pre-A, A, B or C

LakeCleElum 02-28-2017 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRM (Post 9490771)
It was probably 100+ to wrap the frame around the pole and break off the rear axel like that. It's hard to tell without seeing the skid marks.

Good point MRM. However, with anti-lock brakes these days, we see less skid marks in the Accident reconstruction business. Still see Yaw marks and these can be used to calculate speed. Back in the day, I had all these formulas programed in "Basic" on the cassette tape drive of my computer: a TI 99A.

Figuring speed from "Crush" is a whole new issue. No longer an exact science like tire marks were.

dafischer 02-28-2017 10:46 AM

Those are masks overlaying the stock tail lights.
Under the lenses on an S60 looks nothing like that.


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