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onewhippedpuppy 10-14-2020 06:19 PM

I never really feel like the special whiskey glasses make a difference.

I picked up some George Remus bourbon a few weeks ago on sale and really liked it, for under $50 it’s worth a sample.

James Brown 10-14-2020 06:34 PM

which one do I drink?http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1602725574.jpg

billybek 10-14-2020 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 11064849)
!! you could buy that in Calif. for "only" $1,150

You could come up here and buy it for the same price but in Canuck bucks.
Still not happening...

RWebb 10-15-2020 12:14 PM

they won't let us in - want to ship me a bottle?

billybek 10-15-2020 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 11065713)
they won't let us in - want to ship me a bottle?

It might mysteriously show up half empty, or half full depending on how you look at it!
😉

RWebb 10-15-2020 02:47 PM

that's fine as long as it's free

john70t 10-15-2020 02:49 PM

I'm not much of a liquor person at all, but do like Buffalo Trace and Maker's Mark.
Old Forester with it's smoky tones is probably the fav right now.
Suntory is definitely not.

onewhippedpuppy 10-15-2020 06:37 PM

I love me some Suntory.:D

MMiller 10-15-2020 06:47 PM

"For relaxing times, make it Suntory time."

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I enjoy as well..

Ayles 10-15-2020 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 11066125)
I love me some Suntory.:D

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onewhippedpuppy 10-15-2020 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayles (Post 11066153)
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That’s freaking awesome! I fell in love on a JAL flight in business class. I enjoyed liberally.

Jims5543 01-03-2022 04:25 PM

Hi! My name is Jim and I love whiskey.

Thanks to a DM from Craigster I was reminded that I have a bottle of Corsets, Whips and Whiskey tucked away. I was waiting to open it after I had purchased a backup. I looked online and found some. 2 more bottles heading my way!!

So I tapped into my reserve bottle, good stuff!!!

I also grabbed a bottle of Old Forester, I was unsure what was good, they had 4 grades, I picked the second most expensive. Would have grabbed the most expensive but the wife was with me, I had to restrain myself.

I like the Old Forester, its a good sipping whiskey. I LOVE the Corsets. It's very complex and really good.

I really cannot compare it to anything else, it is very unique.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...79de205340.jpg

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Jims5543 01-03-2022 05:05 PM

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Jims5543 01-10-2022 03:39 PM

Reinforcements have arrived. This is why I tapped into my existing bottle. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...ba22e73d16.jpg

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craigster59 01-10-2022 04:02 PM

Blackwells in SF?

zakthor 01-10-2022 04:10 PM

Wish I'd taken a pic of the scotch for sale in vancouver airport duty free in 2019.

Big stack of bottles in the window with prices ranging from $12.5k->$150k. Of course I went in and harassed the clerks. The 20yo clerk told me it was a solid investment as they were increasing the prices by 20% every month.

Can't believe I din't take a snap.

Jims5543 01-10-2022 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by craigster59 (Post 11571768)
Blackwells in SF?

Yes sir!!

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craigster59 01-10-2022 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by zakthor (Post 11571773)
Wish I'd taken a pic of the scotch for sale in vancouver airport duty free in 2019.

Big stack of bottles in the window with prices ranging from $12.5k->$150k. Of course I went in and harassed the clerks. The 20yo clerk told me it was a solid investment as they were increasing the prices by 20% every month.

Can't believe I din't take a snap.

The CW&W Jim posted above is some good stuff! 123.4 proof, that's a strong batch. I think the highest I had was 121.

At Burbank Airport at the bar they have a bottle of Pappy Van Winkle. I think it was $250-400 a shot, can't remember which. I wasn't about to pay for one since there's no telling what was actually in the bottle. CW&W is good enough for me! I had enough from the Flaviar membership to figure out what I prefer.

Jims5543 01-10-2022 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by craigster59 (Post 11571786)
The CW&W Jim posted above is some good stuff! 123.4 proof, that's a strong batch. I think the highest I had was 121.

At Burbank Airport at the bar they have a bottle of Pappy Van Winkle. I think it was $250-400 a shot, can't remember which. I wasn't about to pay for one since there's no telling what was actually in the bottle. CW&W is good enough for me! I had enough from the Flaviar membership to figure out what I prefer.

I have a Flaviar sample pack in my booze cabinet. One is a 23 yo Pappy along with some younger vintages. 4 in total.

I was saving it to share with an out of town friend who has not traveled here in years. I think I will break my standing tradition of sipping some 21 yo Bushmills this year for my next trip around the sun in exchange for the 23 yo Pappy's.

My previous bottle of CW&W was 117 proof. I am interested in seeing how this batch tastes.

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Ayles 01-10-2022 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jims5543 (Post 11564764)
Hi! My name is Jim and I love whiskey.

Thanks to a DM from Craigster I was reminded that I have a bottle of Corsets, Whips and Whiskey tucked away. I was waiting to open it after I had purchased a backup. I looked online and found some. 2 more bottles heading my way!!

So I tapped into my reserve bottle, good stuff!!!

I also grabbed a bottle of Old Forester, I was unsure what was good, they had 4 grades, I picked the second most expensive. Would have grabbed the most expensive but the wife was with me, I had to restrain myself.

I like the Old Forester, its a good sipping whiskey. I LOVE the Corsets. It's very complex and really good.

I really cannot compare it to anything else, it is very unique.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...79de205340.jpg

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Next Old Forester you try should be the 1920. Of the few in the series I have tried it is the best and its one of my favorite bourbons overall.

gr8fl4porsche 01-11-2022 12:17 PM

If you get into nosing and drinking your whiskey neat, then the Glen Cairn glass does make a difference.

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Alan A 01-12-2022 03:52 AM

Too much work. Skip directly to 5...

GH85Carrera 01-12-2022 07:17 AM

I have stayed out of this thread as I am a beer guy, and not a bourbon or whiskey drinker. Back in 2015 we took a tour of the Maker's Mark distillery. It was an interesting visit. They had a tasting room at the end of the tour and we all got a short shot of 5 different versions of Maker's Mark. I have not had a drop of whisky or bourbon since that day, but lots of beer.

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If you look in the center of this the raw alcohol is the white liquid going into the barrels to be aged.

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Dipping the bottles in the wax.

One stop on the tour was the print room where they use the same equipment they have always used to print the labels. They let us have some labels.

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I have 4 labels that I am never going to use for anything and I will mail them to the first four of you that request one. Just PM me your mailing address, and I will drop it in a standard business envelope. It will cost me the 53 cents postage plus the cost of the envelope. I only ask you donate some money to a local pet rescue, or dog food drive for the animal shelter, or horse shelter. Something to help animals.

Jims5543 02-01-2022 06:22 PM

Has everyone gone sober on me?

I am overdue for a trip to Total Wine, I feel a trip coming this week.

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OK-944 02-03-2022 08:07 AM

Nirvana: Laphroaig Quarter Cask...Neat

Alternate Nirvana: Laphroaig 10yr (a bit more of a bite)...nicely smoothed out with a swig of properly double-pulled Guiness...aaahhhh!

My Daily Driver: Bulleit Bourbon, in a small snifter with just a few drops of water - placed on my wood stove while I light the fire. As the fire propogates...me staring into the flames in meditative bliss...the bourbon warming to perfection...perfect!

My Winter Beater: Bottom shelf Evan Williams - does the job!

PS: Hey Jim...that's a bit of real fine art photography that you've got going on there!

Racerbvd 02-03-2022 02:06 PM

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Jims5543 02-03-2022 02:24 PM

ICE CUBES!!!!!

That fantastic Scotch should be enjoyed neat with a dash of cool water. I will go as much as 1/3 water if that is what it takes to open up the taste.

I was making fun of Rogan for doing the same.
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Aerkuld 02-03-2022 07:04 PM

If he wants to buy good whisky and put ice in it that's entirely up to him - drink it any way you want. Me? I'll take it neat please. Add some water for some of the high proof cask strength stuff.

We regularly get out the 'unicorns' for a select group of friends like the Ardbeg 1977, a Talisker 25, St. Magdalene 19. Last Saturday was our Burns' Night Dinner and we had several bottles to sample. This time the favor was returned with this magnificent 1975 Glenmorangie which one of the guests brought along. Distilled in 1975, bottled in 2002 at 27 years old, and nurtured since then. To say it was like drinking velvet would be an understatement.

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Same guy at Thanksgiving gave me this 1989 Bruichladdich. Cask strength at 58% ABV and heavily sherried it was an absolute gem. He claimed he didn't like it, which I can only imagine was due to the overpowering sherry influence. That said, he seemed to like it last Saturday but didn't want it returned when I offered.

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We tried several bottles that night. In the background of the Glenmorangie photo is an Old Potrero. It's a 100% malted rye, cask strength, finished in port casks, and an absolute cracker. Not Scotch, but someone wanted to try it. The Macallan is the 2019 'Classic Cut' and also at cask strength. I think there was a lot of cask strength going on that night as we also had a CS Glendronach.

Jims5543 02-03-2022 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Aerkuld (Post 11596991)
If he wants to buy good whisky and put ice in it that's entirely up to him - drink it any way you want. Me? I'll take it neat please. Add some water for some of the high proof cask strength stuff.

Friends do not let friends freeze whiskey / scotch so it cannot be tasted.

I am all for icing whiskey when it is some cheaper Jack Daniels / Jameson style whiskey.

I am trying to help a good guy here, Bryon is good people, I used to be a iced Whiskey drinker then started to explore aged whiskeys and scotch and understood the need to tone down the ice and taste the whiskey / scotch.

I make my old fashioned's with Rittenhouse Rye, a $30 bottle with ice. I am not stranger to icing it down.



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To say it was like drinking velvet would be an understatement.
Anytime I break out my 21 y/o Bushmills I feel the same way. It is such a treat.


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craigster59 02-03-2022 09:08 PM

So what the heck is "branch water"? I've always seen that and figured it was just creek water.

greglepore 02-04-2022 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by craigster59 (Post 11597070)
So what the heck is "branch water"? I've always seen that and figured it was just creek water.

That's its origin but in the south now its just a fancy way to order whiskey with tap water.

CurtEgerer 02-04-2022 08:27 AM

So has everyone watched Pappygate on Hulu? Part of The Heist (or something like that) series.

I have a self-imposed $50 limit on bourbon, and preferably <$35. No real interest in the high $$ stuff - I've tried many and just don't have the taste buds to justify it I guess. Elijah Craig, Buffalo Trace, various Knob Creeks, Wild Turkeys & Woodford Reserves, Henry McKenna, Russell's, Larceny (most recently), etc. So many great bourbons in the $25-50 price category.

Aerkuld 02-04-2022 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jims5543 (Post 11597008)
Friends do not let friends freeze whiskey / scotch so it cannot be tasted.

. . .

I am trying to help a good guy here, Bryon is good people, I used to be a iced Whiskey drinker then started to explore aged whiskeys and scotch and understood the need to tone down the ice and taste the whiskey / scotch.

Oh, I'm right with you Jim. I was taught by my father to drink the likes of Scotch and Cognac neat. Warming the glass in your hand, especially with Cognac in a balloon glass, helps to intensify the aromas. I find with some whisk(e)y a drop or two (literally) of water can also help pick out some of the aromas and mask others. When I'm serious about sampling something for the first time, I'll add water drop by drop resting the glass in between. Time also changes the character, so a neat glass alongside a second glass with the water added helps. I can happily spend an hour on a single tasting.
Ice will mute the experience significantly. It's the equivalent of listening to a concert orchestra when you're wearing hearing protectors.
In the interests of trying to help Byron it's fair enough, definitely try it WITHOUT the ice. Take your time, don't rush it, and give the spirit the opportunity to open up in the glass over at least half an hour or so.

Aerkuld 02-04-2022 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by CurtEgerer (Post 11597407)
So has everyone watched Pappygate on Hulu? Part of The Heist (or something like that) series.

I have a self-imposed $50 limit on bourbon, and preferably <$35. No real interest in the high $$ stuff - I've tried many and just don't have the taste buds to justify it I guess. Elijah Craig, Buffalo Trace, various Knob Creeks, Wild Turkeys & Woodford Reserves, Henry McKenna, Russell's, Larceny (most recently), etc. So many great bourbons in the $25-50 price category.

I haven't watched it, but I'm of the opinion Pappy has become excessively hyped. I was looking back through some old photos from the early 2000's and saw I'd had a bottle of the Van Winkle special reserve. I think this was before the big hype started, so I probably paid $50 or so for it. I looked back through my notes and found I wasn't impressed at all. It was 'just' a regular bourbon. I can definitely tell the differences between bourbons, but the variety is nowhere near as distinct as with Scotch, although there are notable exceptions.
Now, I haven't tried the Pappy and any whisk(e)y is going to mellow with age. Also, the age can add complexity but not always. Either way, I can imagine it's interesting, but I seriously doubt it's anything close to as good as the price suggests. As you point out, there's a lot of good bourbon in the sub $50 range. I have spent more than that on a couple of bottles, but I don't feel the cost/quality curve is as dramatic as I've experienced with Scotch.
I'm always open to be differing opinion . . .

matthewb0051 02-04-2022 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by craigster59 (Post 11597070)
So what the heck is "branch water"? I've always seen that and figured it was just creek water.

Quote:

Originally Posted by greglepore (Post 11597195)
That's its origin but in the south now its just a fancy way to order whiskey with tap water.

JR Ewing used to order bourbon and branch back in the day.

Racerbvd 02-04-2022 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jims5543 (Post 11597008)
Friends do not let friends freeze whiskey / scotch so it cannot be tasted.

I am all for icing whiskey when it is some cheaper Jack Daniels / Jameson style whiskey.

I am trying to help a good guy here, Bryon is good people, I used to be a iced Whiskey drinker then started to explore aged whiskeys and scotch and understood the need to tone down the ice and taste the whiskey / scotch.

I make my old fashioned's with Rittenhouse Rye, a $30 bottle with ice. I am not stranger to icing it down.





Anytime I break out my 21 y/o Bushmills I feel the same way. It is such a treat.


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Gentlemen, a friend fixed that drink for me , my Shrine cigar club brothers.
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greglepore 02-05-2022 05:33 AM

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51zOjH0V9WL.jpg

Great book about the return of the Weller distillery.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/...bL._SY346_.jpg

And this is a good read about the myths and marketing surrounding Bourbon (hint-almost every brand now is a made up post prohibition name even if they are in fact historical figures)

CurtEgerer 02-05-2022 06:05 AM

Yeah, the names and 'legends' behind a lot of these bourbons is amusing. You pick one up and think, wow this has got some real history! Then you research it a bit and find out it's actually only been in existence for 10 years and has some some sort of very loose association with a name from the past. Oh well, as long as it tastes good.

I remember Van Winkle from the 90s and always thinking it was a weird name for bourbon and why would I buy that! It's not an old name in bourbon. I think it only started in the late 80s/early 90s. Lots of hype today for sure.

Pappygate is worth a watch. Employees were stealing cases of Pappy and full barrels of Wild Turkey. Security at the distilleries was almost non-existent at the time.

Jims5543 02-10-2022 06:35 PM

Just placed a decent sized order with Caskers. Influenced by Ayes (Forester) and Greglepore (Rittenhouse) The Blantons is a replacement bottle so I can tap into my hold bottle without regret.

The Journeyman is a curious interest to see if it is anywhere near as good as Corsets, Whips and Whiskey. @ $50 a bottle I will take a chance, worst case, I make it a mixer.

Blanton's Original Single Barrel Bourbon Whiskey

Rittenhouse 100 Proof Straight Rye Whisky

Journeyman Whiskey Buggy Whip Wheat Whiskey

Old Forester 1920 Prohibition Style Bourbon Whiskey

Caskers is a good place to shop.

https://www.caskers.com/

As well as Blackwell's

https://www.blackwellswines.com/

greglepore 02-11-2022 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jims5543 (Post 11604309)
Just placed a decent sized order with Caskers. Influenced by Ayes (Forester) and Greglepore (Rittenhouse) The Blantons is a replacement bottle so I can tap into my hold bottle without regret.

The Journeyman is a curious interest to see if it is anywhere near as good as Corsets, Whips and Whiskey. @ $50 a bottle I will take a chance, worst case, I make it a mixer.

Blanton's Original Single Barrel Bourbon Whiskey

Rittenhouse 100 Proof Straight Rye Whisky

Journeyman Whiskey Buggy Whip Wheat Whiskey

Old Forester 1920 Prohibition Style Bourbon Whiskey

Caskers is a good place to shop.

https://www.caskers.com/

As well as Blackwell's

https://www.blackwellswines.com/

We finally have Rittenhouse here in Va on a regular basis, for 28 bucks its hard to beat. The bourbon aisle in our state run stores though-whew, looks like they were swept by pirates. Its crazy. Luckily I like Elijah Craig small batch, as its one of the few I can get dependably.
We have a Weller lottery coming up.


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