Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 9670103)

...there is not a single scintilla of hard evidence. An alloy with isotopes not found on earth, a gizmo made with technology not of earth.

Originally Posted by Heel n Toe (Post 9670238)

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Originally Posted by Heel n Toe (Post 9670238)

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Originally Posted by Heel n Toe (Post 9670268)

It wasn't a weather balloon. That was the cover story cooked up a day later after our military had already bragged about having a crashed saucer and it went into at least one newspaper.

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 9670311)

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However, as the De Grass-Tyson dude says, they can travel light years to earth and then they screw up and crash.

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 9670275)

My father was born in Artesia NM and moved down the road to Roswell soon after.
Not a big place at the time.
He was there. He knew many of the people involved.

He worked at White Sands missile range while in college.
he worked at Morton Thyocol, Hercules, Reinhold, all sorts of aerospace and missile type-places. he worked with JPL and NASA. He worked on lots of projects that required substantial security clearances.

One time I asked him directly about the Roswell conspiracy.
He said "It was all a bunch of whooey. Lots of people getting caught up in the BS, looking for their 15 minutes of fame".

I believe him and trust him more than anyone else on the planet.

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 9670275)

Look up project mogul.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Mogul

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 9670103)

UFOs are indeed 100% real. Unidentified is the key word. No doubt humans have seen a lot of things that defy logical easy explanation. I get that. It does not make them extraterrestrial. I have met you in person and I know your are a logical intelligent man. What you saw is something no one will be able to explain away. Doubtful it was swamp gas. :rolleyes:

There are lots of people that have seen something unidentified and unusual.

Bottom line, there is not a single scintilla of hard evidence. An alloy with isotopes not found on earth, a gizmo made with technology not of earth. It is like bigfoot, no hairs, no bones no evidence of any sort except people saying they saw it. Swearing they saw it. Terrified of it.

It is simply impossible to prove a negative. No one can prove something does NOT exist. The burden of proof is on the people saying it does exist. I can claim to have a pet bigfoot ghost. Only visible to me. You can't see it and you (or anyone) can't prove I don't have it. I have to prove I do. My proof will come right after proof of a real bigfoot.

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 9670237)

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Originally Posted by futurefun (Post 9671304)

Unacknowledged, is a recently released documentary by Dr. Steven Greer which I will watch in the next few days. You can google the trailer. The Day After Roswell by Col. Phillip Corso is a book that three of you may read & enjoy.

Originally Posted by futurefun (Post 9671304)

Unacknowledged, is a recently released documentary by Dr. Steven Greer which I will watch in the next few days. You can google the trailer.

Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 9671516)

I believe in UFO's... as in people see flying objects that are unidentified.
As far as the pyramids and hundreds if not thousands of other ancient structures I feel it is a gross disservice to humankind and our ingenuity to think that we needed help from extraterrestrials to build them.

Originally Posted by tabs (Post 9671589)

I read most of Corso's book at Barnes and Noble when it came out on the 50th anniversary of Roswell in 98. I had seen him being interviewed on the publishing of his book. Interesting....????

Originally Posted by rcooled (Post 9672431)

Sounds like many believe that this guy is simply full of schit. Here's a few excerpts from a comment posted a year ago on Reddit:

"He is slick in his presentation and spouts nonsense that people like. The whole 'space brothers' sort of thing. Who doesn’t like the idea that highly advanced aliens have our best interests in mind. He caters to the religiosity of UFOlogy. Like all evangelists there is always a time where the hat gets passed around…time to pay good hard cash for your faith."

"He claims in his youth being able to contact extraterrestrials at will through his awesome mind power of meditation. Funny now he now charges thousands of dollars for his minions to follow him into the woods with flash lights and lasers to “vector” one in on his midnight UFO vectoring sessions. Of the 100’s of UFO vectoring sessions that he took in bag loads of money for. He has not released any credible evidence of ET contact at all."

"Greer also claims he has developed a ‘zero point’ energy device that can be held in one hand and is capable of powering small cities. It is supposed to be available 'real soon now', any day, right around the corner, imminently. And in the meantime you surely can invest in this technology which will make you insanely rich."

"The reality here is one need not look any further than Greer (among others) for the real problem the UFO field is faced with: The charlatans , delusional personalities, and outright sensationalists who are taking center stage with their completely unfounded and often times exaggerated claims, citing of anonymous sources, and offering of not a shred of tangible evidence as to those claims."




Some common sense here from scottmandue...