Chem Trail buddy is at it again
 

For about a week he ranted on about Alexa prophesises about the end of the world.

His latest is Building 7 of the World Trade Center. He mixes in the twin towers conspiracy theory's about it.

First it was blown up. Then some secret government agency planted nano thermite which melted all the I beams in the building. It was so much superior than the thermite I can make is why it worked so well. Today Israeli agents pretending to be running a art exhibit planted explosives on the top floor of the building. He's got proof.

He's not or doesn't appear to be a danger to himself or others yet but really needs some help.

How do I get it for him?

Unless he becomes a threat to himself, others or has an epiphany, you may not be able to help him. In the mean time, try to stay on his good side and watch for signs of further detachment from reality.

He's not alone in with that theory. The engineers and architects for 911 truth seem to think that your friend's idea is true. It does seem more than coincidental that building 7 came down without a plane hitting it. Just an office fire brought it down?


https://www.ae911truth.org/

So, does he believe these, or just open to the ideas/discussion that they are a possibility?

There is a lot of "Could have happened" that we can't prove or disprove.

Emphatically saying something you can't prove isn't so might be off the rails as well. ;)

Some things just open themselves up to conspiracy theories.

I know a guy that is runs a decent business, dead convinced though that big oil had the government assassinate a guy with a special carburetor design that would run on water. He was silenced and his workshop confiscated to keep demand for oil from going down.

It doesn't seem to matter that chemically it takes energy to separate water into its elements, making anything running on water a loss.

I remember all the conspiracy theories focused on the Mura Building bombing. Why wouldn't any other catastrophic event produce conspiracy theories.

There is a theory that using silicon from sand is going to replace carbon in petroleum. Problem is like H2O it takes a heck of a lot more energy than it produces. There is also the Tesla based, shoebox sized generator that can power your house for free that the government is buying up all the generators being produced.

I think what Terry Nichols said about the FBI helping them may be true. I wouldn't put anything past the gubmint.

based on current trends I'd say you want to make him into a victim class and seek to normalize his deviant behavior. you will quickly find others with similar inner turmoil who will jump at the chance to ignore their true problems and join him in professing their 'normalcy'.

GW for your own sanity I think you need new friends.:)

The only person you can save is yourself. Trying to save anyone else just destroys you in the process.

Building 7 is easy to explain.
The electrical substation for the entire wtc was underneath the building. Also stored there was the diesel stores needs to fuel the off line generators.
Massive arc faults coupled with diesel fuel caused building 7 to collapse.

I grew up on VANCOUVER Island. There are lots of conspiracy theorists there and lots of pot (there may be a connection).

We used to go to a certain coffee shop populated by the conspirasts and sit near them and eavesdrop for fun. Other times we would have loud arguments about who was a better drummer, Hendrix or Elvis... we also liked to talk politics loudly... ‘they are going to get rid of health care and just give everyone a vitamin c allowance... if you take your vitamin c, you never get sick and we don’t need healthcare...’

Good times.

Good strategy, you can't correct everything you perceive as "wrong". If it isn't doing harm just smile. SmileWavy

We used to work with a guy that was sure virtually everything was a conspiracy. It was a blast to just make one up on the spot when we went to lunch. One other employee was genius at just fabricating a crazy conspiracy and just make it up as he went. The crazier the conspiracy the more the guy ate it up. That was back before the internet so no one could just look it up instantly.

Is this the guy with the internet girl? It has to be....

My 91 year old dad is OBSESSED with building 7 conspiracy. Any time not spent watching Hannity or Judge Judy is spent researching Building 7.

He got me for about 90 minutes about it the other day ( I was happy to listen) and he also tied it into Pearl Harbor conspiracy theory, which is very important to him (he joined the Navy in January 1942 at age 15. errr, I mean 18, sir!)

It's really interesting how the human brain works; especially at advanced age.

If any person you know does not accept the standardize media explanation for suspicious major events involving trillions of dollars and nation-building and nullification of constitution powers, just have them committed.

Ok. Got it.

Well like the guy with the internet GF this guy has been a friend for 38 years. He lost his dog of 15 years a few months ago and then this all started. First it was Con trails. He sat up one night when it was -25 outside and he took pictures of every plane that went over. It was proof they were spraying us he said. I gave him the plane tracking site someone posted here and told him it must be secret planes doing the spraying so he should track them going overhead. That must have been to logical for him and he moved on to Alexa when she started to laugh for no reason.

Now this crap. :rolleyes:

I thought about walking away but then what kind of friend would I actually be if I did?

Another friend had a break from reality several years ago. He was locked up and medicated for about 3 months before he got his meds nailed down enough to be let out. They adjusted them over the next year. I asked what we as his friends could do and the Dr. said just be his friend they way you always have been. So we made fun of him when playing crib and called him names like we always did. Like friends who have known each other for a long long time can. When he told us his plans to escape from the locked ward he was in we asked if he thought that was the wisest choice he could make and he stayed put. We could have got him the rope ladder he wanted but we didn't. :)

With the Con trail guy it's just so frustrating to explain things logically and have him dismiss it with tales of magical ninjas ..... or sharks with lasers on their heads.

He signs off his emails to me with "The Truth is Out There!" So I started signing mine with "Life is not a movie script"

"He's not alone in with that theory. The engineers and architects for 911 truth seem to think that your friend's idea is true. It does seem more than coincidental that building 7 came down without a plane hitting it. Just an office fire brought it down?"

"Building 7 is easy to explain.
The electrical substation for the entire wtc was underneath the building. Also stored there was the diesel stores needs to fuel the off line generators.
Massive arc faults coupled with diesel fuel caused building 7 to collapse."


I don't normally post about my job but I've been a cop for almost 30 years and was there that day...pretty much the longest day of my life. After all the surreal images wore off for that day, I was standing next to a battalion chief looking at bldg 7 burn and gingerly asked him why they weren't doing anything about it. It was fairly obvious they lost a lot of people that day and I felt like a bit of a heel to even bring it up but the fire in bldg 7 didn't look too bad to my uneducated eye. Pretty much just the first 2-3 floors were burning. He told me that the bldg was too far gone & dangerous. Sure enough, about 2 hrs later, down it came. After that, I don't talk about fire & structure-related issues that I know nothing about. I leave that to Rosie O'Donnell and the rest of those nattering nabobs that know exactly F about shyte.

Spiro lives!

...or at least his speechwriter, Bill Safire. :)

Doesn't the perfect collapse raise your eyebrows? It would all be believable if the buildings toppled over. The perfection of it all is enough to be suspicious over.

I feel for you bro. If he is just rambling I don't think there is anything you can do. Keep your eyes and heart open but don't endanger yourself. If he becomes dangerous in some way then you can try to get him help, but if he isn't a danger or doesn't want help you're just an observer.

Yeah, if he starts advocating the breaking of federal laws (immigration) he might need a visit from the FBI.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1523368885.jpg

I love this. Lots of really smart people won't question stories that have major holes in them.

That must have been your worst day on the job and thank you for being there. Did it seem like the chief you talked to knew building number 7 was going to come down? I watched an interview where an official used a demolition term to describe its fall. He said they decided to "pull it". That sounded fishy to me and thousands of others. The roof buckled in the middle, then it fell perfectly just like an engineered fall does.

You canna change the laws of physics. For the building to not go straight down requires force.

asymmetrical damage does not cause symmetrical collapse

the majority of the world population who can read the bottom line aren't going to agree with what it says.

My buddy has mentioned this organization several times (The engineers and architects for 911 truth).

He claims they represent 2200 engineers and architects but "In 2009, Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth had a booth at the annual convention of the American Institute of Architects.[19] AE tried to get the AIA to pass a "Building 7 resolution" - "a Position Statement in support of a new investigation into the complete collapse of 7 World Trade Center on September 11, 2001." However, it failed by a vote of 3,892 to 160 - garnering just over 4% support.[20] The AIA has maintained separation from Gage and his organization. AIA media relations director Scott Frank has stated that "We don’t have any relationship with his organization whatsoever."

You would assume that if they had the support claimed that the numbers of their members at the meeting and voting on the proposal would be higher. Maybe they have more Engineers as members?

Thanks LesPaul, the Chief didn't come out and say it was going to collapse but he said it was too dangerous to fight the fire which, at the time, was solidly across the entire base of the bldg consuming the first 3 or so floors. By the time the bldg came down, it had spread to the 5th & maybe 6th floors.

I shouldn't be even speculating but my opinion is that because the fire was spread across all the footprint of the bldg, weakening the 1st thru 5th floors, when it started coming down it pretty much went straight down. If it had been only on one side of the bldg, wouldn't that make the bldg fall more like a tree that everone seemed to be expecting? Even if that were the case, it probably wouldn't fall like that due to the cross-integrity of the remaining structure because it's all tied together. Red-Beard is right...gravity wants to suck the thing straight down and it requires tremendous force to start it moving otherwise. Trees fall the way they do because their stiffness remains intact along their length and the base was just chopped away. On a bldg, if the bottom structure goes "soft" due to high heat, I don't think the upper structure has the strength like a tree to remain intact and it just seems to collapse on itself as things shear. The loads & forces are tremendous.
Anyway, here I went and started talking about stuff I know nothing about. Now we just need Rosie to come and talk about steel burning.