In Search of a Traffic Lawyer in The Dalles, OR Area

gtc · gtc's Garage

Yup... got a ticket this weekend in Oregon. Anyone know of a traffic lawyer that takes cases in The Dalles?

Thanks,

Paul K · Paul K's Garage

If it was the OSP they have a bad reputation there. I heard they ticket over 72, which is complete BS. Good luck!

gtc · gtc's Garage

Yeah, they're douchebags, just like everywhere else. No offense intended to douchebags...

Jeff Higgins · 10-12-2009, 06:03 PM

Let this be a lesson to you, young man. No one at the XXX got a ticket this weekend...

RSlater · 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

Let this be a lesson to you, young man. No one at the XXX got a ticket this weekend...

Ya, I bet you guys got great gas mileage sitting in that parking lot

Jeff Higgins · 10-13-2009, 07:11 AM

We had a great drive down from Cathcart, and a great drive after breakfast. We were, of course, safe, responsible, and couteous on both.

RSlater · 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

We had a great drive down from Cathcart, and a great drive after breakfast. We were, of course, safe, responsible, and couteous on both.

Ya got to love courtesy Higgens style, So I gave him a little bit of MFI lovin' on the way by...

Of course given the oppertunity I would have done the same

stew · 10-14-2009, 10:04 PM

i know the osp guys out there and i guess i take offense. you guys get caught and you complain and call names. pay the fine and move on. i just don't speed anymore where they can catch me.

gtc · gtc's Garage

Ahhh.... let me guess... you must be the off-duty officer driving around with a laser gun in your personal vehicle, who clocked the whole group doing 100+ mph. So the cops weren't lying after all.

Rich Lambert · Rich Lambert's Garage

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Originally Posted by gtc

Ahhh.... let me guess... you must be the off-duty officer driving around with a laser gun in your personal vehicle, who clocked the whole group doing 100+ mph. So the cops weren't lying after all.

Did they really say that? Did everyone get a ticket? I'm surprised we haven't seen you on the news yet.

Call Jeff's lawyer, maybe she can recomend someone in Oregon.

Jeff Higgins · 10-15-2009, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by stew

i know the osp guys out there and i guess i take offense. you guys get caught and you complain and call names. pay the fine and move on. i just don't speed anymore where they can catch me.

I don't think any of us have a problem with police doing real police work. However, I think most of us have a problem with their newly adopted role of erstwile "revenuers" with a gun, a RADAR or LASER gun, and a mission to fill their jurisdictions' coffers.

The fact is that our lawmakers have have so severely dumbed down their need to prove any of their accusations that most of us have pretty well had enough. All an officer has to do is cite, to accuse, and we are assumed guilty. There is no longer any need whatsoever for the officer to prove a god damn thing. None. The standard of evidence has been reduced to "preponderance", which has a very precise legal meaning - 51% of the available evidence is all it takes for a decision. In Washington and Oregon, that 51% is no more than the officer's word. In addition, we have no right to be tried in front of a jury of our peers. The officer need only "prove" his case to another government employee, the judge, who is also keen to collect revenue. On top of that, we have no right to representation.

In other words, out most fundemental right as an American citizen, when accused by authorities of wrongdoing - the right to due process - is denied us in traffic court. Most of us very strongly resent that. Most cops take full advantage of that, either under departmental edict or to stoke their own egos, or both. They are writing tickets at an uprecedented rate as a result.

This comes at a time when more and more departments are announcing an inability to investigate certain crimes, due to budget and manpower constraints. Typically property crime below some arbitrary value, like $10,000 or something. Those announcements get a little hard to swallow when we see speed traps with multiple officers sitting on their dead asses, clearly just collecting revenue.

And, finally, do these guys ticket one another? Most speed off duty just like the rest of us. A little blue, green, or yellow bear in the lower left corner of the back window says "I'm a cop" or "I'm related to a cop", and all they get is a verbal warning. They are the worst kind of hypocrites, claiming it's all about "public safety" when they cite us, but giving each other - and each others' wives and children - a free pass. They know better concerning this "public safety" ruse, and they know that we know better as well. I don't think anything else has done as much to erode the public's trust in, and respect for, law enforcement officers. They need to realize this. Actually, I think most do. They just don't care - they don't have to. It's just far too easy to go along and keep writing as many tickets as possible; it earns them props in their departments, and satisfies their need to demonstrate their authority. I guess it's easier (and much safer) than going after real criminals. More profitable, too.

Rusty Heap · Rusty Heap's Garage

So Jeff, is that why your rear window looks like a Gay Pride Parade Rainbow sticker of every color of Bear out there?

I say go right for the Tele Tubbies stickers.

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RSlater · 10:53 AM

They are so corrupt here in Snohomish county, that even when you show that the officer didn't get the correct details written down on the ticket, they won't dismiss it. So how could the officer be competent enough to judge speed/operate a radar gun? Instead they change it to a exspired tabs so they can still get their money and you don't get a moving violation on your insurance. And no I didn't have exspired tabs.
Hence why should we have any respect, who is the real criminals?

gtc · gtc's Garage

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Originally Posted by Rich Lambert

Did they really say that? Did everyone get a ticket? I'm surprised we haven't seen you on the news yet.

Call Jeff's lawyer, maybe she can recomend someone in Oregon.

FWIW, I was separated from the group by about five or ten minutes and was the only one ticketed.
I think i have found a firm that handles traffic offenses, but I will certainly run them by Jeannie first. I have been using her for a few years now with excellent results.

Maybe I can get my speeding ticket reduced to a "no helmet" ticket.

Rich Lambert · Rich Lambert's Garage

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Originally Posted by gtc

FWIW, I was separated from the group by about five or ten minutes and was the only one ticketed.
I think i have found a firm that handles traffic offenses, but I will certainly run them by Jeannie first. I have been using her for a few years now with excellent results.

Maybe I can get my speeding ticket reduced to a "no helmet" ticket.

Yeah, I'm still looking for seatbelts for the Ducati...just in case.

Jeff Higgins · 10-15-2009, 11:57 AM

I'm thinking of selling autographed copies of that one. A real classic.

Callout · 10-15-2009, 02:00 PM

Personally, I find most cops, Unless they are in their mid twenties to be complete asses. I was doing 62 on Redmond/Fall City road, the speed limit is 55.. I got stopped and the cop said I was traveling at an erratic rate of speed, and told me I was going 72. I have proof tho, that I was INFACT going 62, I passed one of the automated speed signs.

The cop pulled me out of the car, searched me/my car/ the hatch for anything he could try and find. He found a bag of chewing tabacco from the previous owner. He tried to tell me that it was weed. I was pissed, it took him an hour and twenty minutes to get the stuff tested, and release me, and be a total dick to me even after I did nothing wrong.

But apparently because an 18 year old male is driving a Porsche that it means its daddies car and, that AUTOMATICALLY means I do way more than the legal speed limit, I LOVE stereotypical cops, Yet I am going to be going to the Police Academy to become a cop... GO FIGURE..

I guess that is just me rambling. I have a lot to speak of about cops, and am VERY opinionated. If you EVER want to just chat about cops or anything, my grandfather was an undercover, so I got the 411, Hit me up

Steve@Rennsport · 10-15-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Callout

Personally, I find most cops, Unless they are in their mid twenties to be complete asses. I was doing 62 on Redmond/Fall City road, the speed limit is 55.. I got stopped and the cop said I was traveling at an erratic rate of speed, and told me I was going 72. I have proof tho, that I was INFACT going 62, I passed one of the automated speed signs.

The cop pulled me out of the car, searched me/my car/ the hatch for anything he could try and find. He found a bag of chewing tabacco from the previous owner. He tried to tell me that it was weed. I was pissed, it took him an hour and twenty minutes to get the stuff tested, and release me, and be a total dick to me even after I did nothing wrong.

But apparently because an 18 year old male is driving a Porsche that it means its daddies car and, that AUTOMATICALLY means I do way more than the legal speed limit, I LOVE stereotypical cops, Yet I am going to be going to the Police Academy to become a cop... GO FIGURE..

I guess that is just me rambling. I have a lot to speak of about cops, and am VERY opinionated. If you EVER want to just chat about cops or anything, my grandfather was an undercover, so I got the 411, Hit me up

JMHO, but if you do go through the Police Academy and join the law enforcement community, I'd bet you will be a splendid and compassionate police officer and a credit to the profession, based partly on your experiences.

Callout · 10-15-2009, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve@Rennsport

JMHO, but if you do go through the Police Academy and join the law enforcement community, I'd bet you will be a splendid and compassionate police officer and a credit to the profession, based partly on your experiences.

Nothing I hate more than a corrupt cop. I figure, I can make a name for the younger cops and show people we are not ALL dickwads. I feel that if anyone can make a good cop out of their experiences, it could be me! I have been pulled over a few times, each time the cops have been jerks. I would be compassionate and forgiving to the people who honestly know what they did and are remorseful.

I don't really want to be known as the jerk that pulled the kid over for 5 over. Those cops make me

stew · 10-15-2009, 10:57 PM

the vast majority of the money collected from fines does not find it's way into the coffers of the city or county where i live. i am a little put off with your name calling but then you have never had to deal with the ***** that the guys here put up with on a regular basis from the drivers of this state.