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MrJTP 04-17-2008 12:38 PM

Denver/Boulder source for PPG paints
 
Hopefully I will have all the sheet metal I need to have the bottom replaced on the tub of my 68. In the meantime I would like to start stripping and primer coating the miscellaneous smaller parts. After several phone calls I haven't found a PPG supplier. Anyone know of one in the Denver/Boulder area?

Also, if you know of a plate shop that will rechrome small parts (bumper horns, door handles, etc) I'll be looking for that soon as well.

Thanks

Buckterrier 04-17-2008 04:15 PM

http://corporateportal.ppg.com/NA/Refinish/ppgrefinish/9-0-Locator/default.htm?searchType=17&Zip=80301

MrJTP 04-17-2008 04:19 PM

Excellent. Thanks Mark.

Buckterrier 04-17-2008 05:48 PM

You're very welcome, good luck with your project and take pics!

joefrantz 04-17-2008 09:23 PM

I use Pro Painters Supply on Sante Fe Drive in Englewood.

Joe

rennch 04-18-2008 01:47 PM

Hey Tony,

I need to place an order too. Maybe we can combine and share some of the cost of the reducer/primer, etc...

MrJTP 04-20-2008 07:56 AM

Thats a good idea, I'll probably be investing in primer in late May. Hopefully I'll have everything ready to go by then.

Axiom 04-20-2008 09:56 AM

What primer do you guys have in mind?

rennch 04-20-2008 11:04 AM

This kit actually comes highly recommended by my paint and body guy, and he's done a few pebble beach restorations.

http://cgi.ebay.com/EUROCOATE-AUTO-PAINT-2K-URETHANE-ALL-IN-ONE-KIT-144-95_W0QQitemZ260230501030QQihZ016QQcategoryZ45046QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

rennch 04-20-2008 11:21 AM

Hey Rudy,

Can you give me a breakdown of what PPG products I'll need to prep and paint my car? It turns out that I have a good source for PPG at a discounted rate. Ideally, I'd love "Get 3 quarts of PPG 6579 Hi-Build Primer, 2 quarts of PPG 568 Clear, etc. I'm looking for a basecoat/clearcoat setup, and I have fiberglass to paint. I'm hoping for a high end clear, or something along those lines. Any thoughts? Thanks!

MrJTP 04-20-2008 04:23 PM

I was planning on using DP40.

Axiom 04-20-2008 05:42 PM

Michael, in my opinion, I'd stay away from ecomonic primers, remember, they are the base of your finish job, the PPG products I use are NCP primer, it is reduce 2 to 1 with NCX 285. it is a good all around primer, does not need additives for using on fiberglass, it is a very high build and with a little imagination, it can be used as a sealer, it does smell like a hang over though. As for paint, DBU for base coat, since it is gonna bea solid color (you are stil going with grey, right?) and for clear, I believe your area is stil allowed to use DCU 2021. with this products, you will have a great finish with little effort. they are very easy to use.

No body ever called my welding porn, thanks !!!

Tony: DP40 is too thin to use as a primer surfacer.

MrJTP 04-20-2008 05:53 PM

Rudy, I must have mis-read earlier posts. I assume then that I should go with the same process you just suggested to Michael.

rennch 04-20-2008 05:54 PM

Thanks Rudy. The message I got from my guy was that they use PPG-Nexa Autocolor. I have never heard of Nexa, but I'm assuming PPG is pretty standard.

rennch 04-20-2008 05:56 PM

Also, Rudy, any thoughts on quantities?

I'll be doing door jambs, but no trunk or engine compartment, or interior.

Axiom 04-20-2008 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrJTP (Post 3897837)
Rudy, I must have mis-read earlier posts. I assume then that I should go with the same process you just suggested to Michael.

Tony: if those products are available to you, I recommend them. for us in the L A area no longer available. DP is a very good bare metal primer, NCP 280 is also very good and can be applied without a self etching coat.

Michael: every brand of paint has 2 or 3 lines of products, Diamond and Owni are the lower quality of of Dupont and PPG, the ones I recommended are top of the line, ask your guy about them an see if they have them, as for quantity, I always get a gallon of paint and clear, just in case I need to do a touch up or go over and area I am not happy with.

rennch 04-20-2008 06:26 PM

Thanks Rudy.

It looks like I'll need:

NCX 280 Primer / surfacer Quantity: ?
NCX 285 Hardener, Quantity: ?

Reducer?

DBU Base Coat, Quantity: 1 Gal
DCU 2021 Clear Coat, Quantity: 1 Gal

Does this sound about right?

MrJTP 04-20-2008 06:36 PM

Rudy, I have to admit that its been 25 years since I painted a car. Things seem to be more complicated now. I will be painting on bare metal. After I've done all the cleaning, etching, cleaning, etc. So, do I use the DP on the bare metal then the NCP/NCX for the high build?

Michael, what shade of gray are you going to use. My plan also was to use a solid gray. Must be a Boulder thing; I lived there for 20 years before I retired from Ball.

Axiom 04-20-2008 06:37 PM

NCP280 1 gallon (doing the whole car plus fiberglass parts)
NCX285 2 quarts, it is reduced 2 to 1 ( buy 1 quart first and see if you need more later, it is expensive)

DBU base coat 1 gallon
DBRR 1170 reducer 1 gallon ( it is reduced 1 to 1)

DCU 2021 1 gallon
DCX 61 1 quart
DT870 1 quart (reduction ratio 4 to 1 to 1)

If I miss a letter or a number, I will let you know as soon as possible.

rennch 04-20-2008 06:43 PM

That's so perfect. I'll be calling the guy tomorrow for pricing. Thanks!

Axiom 04-20-2008 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrJTP (Post 3897936)
Rudy, I have to admit that its been 25 years since I painted a car. Things seem to be more complicated now. I will be painting on bare metal. After I've done all the cleaning, etching, cleaning, etc. So, do I use the DP on the bare metal then the NCP/NCX for the high build?

Michael, what shade of gray are you going to use. My plan also was to use a solid gray. Must be a Boulder thing; I lived there for 20 years before I retired from Ball.

Correct Tony.

I must admit too, I miss the good old days, for us everything changes every 2 years, we have to stay on top of our game, If I can be of any assistance, you can bet I will do my best.

I am starting to like gray too.

rennch 05-01-2008 04:16 PM

I just ordered everything else I'll need to complete the car including all of my body seals, my RS carpet kit, and my paint supplies. Here's what I'm going with for paint:

1st layer: UPOL Reface Poly Spray Putty

PPG K38 Primer Surfacer

PPG DBC Deltron 2000 Base Coat

PPG DCU2021 Clearcoat

It was about $700 for all this stuff, including all of the hardeners/reducers.



It's supposed to be the "good" stuff for where I live. I'm excited!


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