Bottom of the can of Rage

[cary]

I'm getting to the bottom of my can of Rage. Theres a gold varnish looking liquid sitting at the bottom under the filler. Should I avoid it, or mix it in?

[962porsche]

you should throw the can away and open a new one . when ever you open a can of body filler you should mix it up and that goes for every time it sits for more than a day or two .

[cary]

Thank You, that's what I was thinking. But I wanted to make sure.

[962porsche]

when ever your uncertain about a product like body fillers or primers that may be bad its best to just throw it out and open a new can . it would realy suck if you tryed to use it and you get the car into paint and then have the product fail down the road .

[Bob Kontak]

I am using Rage Gold now. I warm it up in a tub of water as the garage gets down to 50 at night. Mixes fairly easily after it softens up.

[cary]

In a hurry I bought a can of just Rage regular. Don't know if I'll like it.

[Bob Kontak]

Let us know. I have not used the extreme only the gold. Assuming regular is not the gold. The gold works easy.

[cary]

Works ok. I'm a little worried about pinholes. We'll see.

[962porsche]

in my shop we use USC pro 7 body filler . for the last skim coat of plastic we also use a very light wieght body filler called icing its also made by USC . its sands real ez and is made to fill any little pin hole or sand scratch that primer will not fill .

[Bob Kontak]

Icing is great stuff but you have to squeegie it in real good and flat or it can be a bear to sand down - especially when you are using 400 or thereabouts.

I also use it for tiny dents. Tube says 1/8" max but I never go that thick for filling an imperfection.

[962porsche]

unless you have primed and have the panel ready for paint and then find a pin hole that you need to fill you should not be wet sanding it of sanding it with a grit less than 220 . most primers will not bite into a cut less than a 220 very well . a 320 cut would be the very least you want to apply a primer over . when your spot priming you want to do your back sanding with a 400 to 320 grit but thats only for the primers over spray edge to have some thing to stick to that gets sanded back at a later day when your preping the panel for its top coating . with a light filler like icing you can knock down the spreader marks/lines with a 180 paper then go right to a 220 paper and then do your back sanding around the area were the filler is with a red pad or 400 to 320 paper blow the panel off mask for primer then do your priming .

[Bob Kontak]

What do you mean by "Back sanding"?

[Bob Kontak]

My basic steps are to hog with 36 and shape with 40. Final sand before primer may be as high as 220. I will use Icing before primer but after primer you find little surprises and I use it again.

Here is where you will probably teach me something. I never touch primer with anything but wet sanding unless there is a screw up. I have applied Icing over the primer and then tried to use wet sanding paper and that is where the problems come in.

Edit - I read you post a little closer. I think the problem is the "applicator" (me) . Too much at the wrong stage.