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Puzzling gauge on dash

I posted this over on the 356 registry.


Hello. Please refer to the photo. The car is a 1963 356B T6 with a '64 SC motor that was installed a decade or so ago. I've only had her a few days, she's grumpy, rusty and not running and does not want to put out! Just trying to get to know her. Perhaps she's your old car. The gauge is on the righ sid eof the dash by the grab bar, and it's in Celcius.

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looks like an outside temp gauge to me, but weird.
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Solved, thanks to derwhite's pages and google: mine appears to be a euro version in celcius.

Outside/Inside Thermometer.....as a Factory Accessory!

Effective April 17, 1963, an outside/inside thermometer could be installed by the factory into all 356's as a special order item, part #644.731.601.05. This item shows up first in the 356-C factory accessory catalog as item #9157. The factory installations started with Coupes beginning with serial #'s 117 601 & 210 601 and with Cabriolets beginning with serial #155 601. A 61 mm diameter hole is needed in the dash. Two manufacturers supplied outside/inside thermometers to Porsche: VDO and Moto-Meter.

The B/C Factory Workshop Manual mentions that "on former vehicles without a clock, a 61 mm diameter orifice for the installation of the indicator can be practiced in a suitable position on the dashboard." Meaning any suitable position on the dashboard. For 356 B's with a clock in the center of the dashboard, the B/C Workshop Manual recommends that a 61 mm hole be drilled on the right hand side of the glove box, and that the clock be installed in this position, while the outside/inside thermometer is installed in the center of the dashboard where the clock used to be!

Information about the outside/inside thermometer can be found in Service Bulletin F 11/63, and in the B/C Factory Workshop Manual, pages S TRA 49-50.

A Little Known Fact: The outside/inside thermometer has a red warning light which lights up if the outside temperature is below zero! (Christophorus magazine, #44, March 1963, page26).
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My '65 euro coupe has a in/out temp gauge installed at the factory. It was a very unusual and from what I've been told extremely rare install position. The clock that is normally centered directly above the radio was moved slightly to the left and the temp gauge was installed to the right and above the radio.
Some of the 356 gurus have checked it out and said they have never seen one exactly like this.
It is also a factory 12 volt car.


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