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austria3 08-12-2018 07:00 AM

Additional interior lights
 
Every time something (keys, sun glasses,…) dropped to the floor of my car at night I had to use my cell phone flash light to find it. So I came up with the idea of adding additional interior lights to my centre console.
This is what the finished project looks like

http://www.sherylcrow.at/car/porsche...0180415_01.jpg


After a bit of research I bought two Hella type 2JA 002 931-031 lights, because they are switchable like the original dome lights, very cheap and easily available.
Because they are quite big, and space is limited it was a bit tricky to find the right place.

http://www.sherylcrow.at/car/porsche...2/img_7488.jpg


As you can see on the picture above my cover had some additional holes from one the pre owner’s phone or whatever. I filled these holes and the big one on top of the cover and painted the whole cover with a structure paint (plastic colour spray for automotive use) which came out pretty close to the original look.
http://www.sherylcrow.at/car/porsche...2/img_7523.jpg


I also had to cut into the inner structure of the console, this part is covered by the panel that holds the two buttons of the A/C.
http://www.sherylcrow.at/car/porsche...2/img_7499.jpg


The electrical part was a bit difficult as I wanted the lights to get on/off with the other interior lights (door contact switches) and I also wanted a light delay switch and it all should fit into the original wiring loom. This is what I came up with (electric diagram).

start by following the wire of the luggage compartment light to the region where the green arrow points, there you will find the cable connectors of the original interior lights and the the wire coming from the door contact switch.
http://www.sherylcrow.at/car/porsche...0171211_02.jpg

I used the door switch to activate the standard 4 pin relay for automotive use and used a light delay switch ('inter light delay YF703')
http://www.sherylcrow.at/car/porsche...0180505_03.jpg


And here I found some space for the relays, mounted to a half moon shaped piece of plastic, held in place by its one weight.
http://www.sherylcrow.at/car/porsche...0180505_02.jpg

shadowjack1 08-12-2018 07:19 AM

Very neat. Thanks

86 911 Targa 08-12-2018 08:31 AM

Lights.
 
Well done, and a great idea.

Here's another for those who have the 3.2 and earlier cars
equipped with the rear seat delete option.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1534087076.jpg
^^^^^
Installed these LED strips & push button switches prior to
installing the Rear seat delete on our M/Y 86.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1534087307.jpg
^^^^^
The power source wiring is routed from the rear fuse panel
through a 5A fuse, through the rear window defogger
wiring grommet located under the parcel shelf (Driver's side).

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1534087477.jpg
^^^^^
Button on/off switch location.

Best,

Gerry

4flyboy 08-12-2018 01:16 PM

Thanks Stefan,

Something that's been rolling around in my head forever.....neat job.

86 911 Targa 08-12-2018 06:21 PM

austria3
 
pm sent.

Requesting additional information.

Best,

Gerry

austria3 08-15-2018 02:01 PM

I updated and translated the electric diagram in my post above...

austria3 06-05-2022 02:04 PM

A quick update on this project of mine. Over the past years I had to access the switches on the center console a few times (CR AC change over form push button to pull switch) or had to remove (temporary) the center console entirely (pedal cluster overhaul) and found my solution to cut holes for the additional light into the inner housing of the console not very helpful as I always had to disconnect and remove the whole light assembly. At first I didn’t want to but there is no other way round - I had to shorten the inner housing too.
http://www.sherylcrow.at/car/porsche...0220103_05.jpg

Then I printed a new back wall and had to shorten the holder of the switches accordingly. The ipod still works as my MP3 storage.
http://www.sherylcrow.at/car/porsche...0220404_01.jpg
Everything back together:
http://www.sherylcrow.at/car/porsche...0220404_02.jpg

One other thing that puzzled me was the lack of cover for the lights on the backside of the light housing. I got more light inside the center console housing than on the outside because of this. So once again I set my 3d-printer up to work, covered the inside of the cover with a piece of a first-aid planked to protect it from the extreme heat of the light.
http://www.sherylcrow.at/car/porsche...0220103_01.jpg
http://www.sherylcrow.at/car/porsche...0220103_03.jpg

the rear cover of the center console now can be lifted off without having to remove the lights:
http://www.sherylcrow.at/car/porsche...0220103_04.jpg

PeteKz 12-06-2022 11:03 PM

Re the center console housing lights: That was the hard way to do it. There are drop-in LED "bulbs" that only emit light from one side. Just rotate the light so that it emits in the outward direction. I did that with the overhead courtesy lights too. Much better light than the original incandescent bulbs.

Qtrfoil 12-07-2022 04:39 AM

Austria3, fantastic work! How did you fill the holes? My '87 was originally purchased in Beverly Hills, presumably by a movie guy, and also has holes suggesting a car phone of the day. I keep thinking about filling the holes, though I also think about finding a period phone. Just curious.

austria3 12-08-2022 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteKz
drop-in LED "bulbs"

Back at the time I made this modification I couldn't find lights in "warm white". Seams to be easier nowadays. Will give them a try. Curious how long the lights will stay on after the doors are closed.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Qtrfoil (Post 11866739)
How did you fill the holes?

To fill the holes and paint the whole plastic cover I used products designed for these kind of repairs (smart repair). You may find a company locally who does this kind of repairs.

PeteKz 12-08-2022 04:01 PM

"Back at the time I made this modification I couldn't find lights in "warm white". Seams to be easier nowadays. Will give them a try. Curious how long the lights will stay on after the doors are closed."

In my 1973, it's a simple on off switch. If you have a car with a light time delay, I have no idea.

austria3 03-19-2024 12:43 PM

Somehow all the pictures I linked to my post disappeared. Because I can not edit my original post I have to quote myself
Quote:

Originally Posted by austria3 (Post 10139676)
Every time something (keys, sun glasses,…) dropped to the floor of my car at night I had to use my cell phone flash light to find it. So I came up with the idea of adding additional interior lights to my centre console.
This is what the finished project looks like

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1710876844.jpg


After a bit of research I bought two Hella type 2JA 002 931-031 lights, because they are switchable like the original dome lights, very cheap and easily available.
Because they are quite big, and space is limited it was a bit tricky to find the right place.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1710876966.jpg


As you can see on the picture above my cover had some additional holes from one the pre owner’s phone or whatever. I filled these holes and the big one on top of the cover and painted the whole cover with a structure paint (plastic colour spray for automotive use) which came out pretty close to the original look.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1710876966.jpg


I also had to cut into the inner structure of the console, this part is covered by the panel that holds the two buttons of the A/C.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1710876966.jpg


The electrical part was a bit difficult as I wanted the lights to get on/off with the other interior lights (door contact switches) and I also wanted a light delay switch and it all should fit into the original wiring loom. This is what I came up with (electric diagram).

start by following the wire of the luggage compartment light to the region where the green arrow points, there you will find the cable connectors of the original interior lights and the the wire coming from the door contact switch.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1710876966.jpg

I used the door switch to activate the standard 4 pin relay for automotive use and used a light delay switch ('inter light delay YF703')
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1710877330.jpg


And here I found some space for the relays, mounted to a half moon shaped piece of plastic, held in place by its one weight.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1710877269.jpg


austria3 03-19-2024 12:51 PM

and the second part
Quote:

Originally Posted by austria3 (Post 11710167)
A quick update on this project of mine. Over the past years I had to access the switches on the center console a few times (CR AC change over form push button to pull switch) or had to remove (temporary) the center console entirely (pedal cluster overhaul) and found my solution to cut holes for the additional light into the inner housing of the console not very helpful as I always had to disconnect and remove the whole light assembly. At first I didn’t want to but there is no other way round - I had to shorten the inner housing too.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1710877621.jpg

Then I printed a new back wall and had to shorten the holder of the switches accordingly. The ipod still works as my MP3 storage.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1710877621.jpg
Everything back together:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1710877621.jpg

One other thing that puzzled me was the lack of cover for the lights on the backside of the light housing. I got more light inside the center console housing than on the outside because of this. So once again I set my 3d-printer up to work, covered the inside of the cover with a piece of a first-aid planked to protect it from the extreme heat of the light.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1710877621.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1710877621.jpg

the rear cover of the center console now can be lifted off without having to remove the lights:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1710877621.jpg


austria3 03-19-2024 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteKz (Post 11868415)
In my 1973, it's a simple on off switch. If you have a car with a light time delay, I have no idea.

Mine didn't come that way. I did add a interior light delay kit to the circus - see my diagramm above. I even sent 86 911 Targa one of these kits because he couldn't find one locally.


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