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Harpo 12-30-2020 12:31 PM

Cerakote
 
I'm a huge fan of satin black powder coating. Looks great and relatively easy to do in my garage (sandblast, apply the powder & bake). However sometimes powder coating is simply too thick and I'm not good enough to apply it light enough to get good coverage with out creating an interference problem with the mating components. I recently pick up a free electric range and ran another 220 line so I wanted to give CERAKOTE a try. There are a lot more steps involved (sandblast, gas out in the oven, soak in acetone, spray CERAKOTE, bake)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1609360205.jpg

Harpo 12-30-2020 03:53 PM

Sandblasted struts degassing in the oven

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1609372129.jpg

Harpo 12-30-2020 04:31 PM

I mix the cerakote by weight

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1609374625.jpg

Harpo 12-30-2020 04:39 PM

Cerakote has a really cool calculator. This way you can ensure an accurate ratio between coating and catalyst

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1609375068.jpg

Ctopher 12-30-2020 04:55 PM

Not sure of your point, possibly some of your intended post didn’t get saved.

I will say Cerakote is freaking awesome stuff! I first tried a color that I would want to use for car parts on a BigGreenEgg cast vent. It has lasted for about 3yrs from low temps to 600+deg temps and looks as good as the day I bought it home. And so I started down the route of anything needing powder coated I would instead use cerakote. To date I only have a few items but they all look perfect coming on 2yrs later. I’ve had the headlight rings, whammy bar, front condenser cage, belly pan, rennline battery box and pedal assembly done in a black that resembles a satin OEM black color. It’s basically the Graphite Black (H-146Q) with max gloss added, as per my cerakote shop that I use. Additionally I’ve had the front oil cooler and the two hard lines and soft lines connecting to the cooler coated with the heat dissapation coating and have had my tools and wevo engine mounts and some of the rennline pedal parts clear cerakote (tools gloss and other parts flat clear). This stuff is long lasting, when done right and maintains the original imperfections of the casting/machining.

Back to your post after my 2 cents.....what else are you planning on coating? Please show finished items.


CTopher

dlagerstrom 12-30-2020 05:21 PM

Does anybody know if the air cure versions work as well as the 2-part, heat cure?

Ctopher 12-30-2020 07:26 PM

I believe the clear, both gloss and flat that I had applied are air cured. While the items I have have not been outside and exposed to the environment for long term. My understanding is once cured are similar to the baked versions. Again I don’t have any long term experience just what I was told by my coater and what I’ve read regarding the products.

CTopher

Harpo 12-31-2020 05:31 AM

Not trying to make a point, just showing how I apply cerakote

I'm no expert and these struts will be my third application of this. Here are some tow hooks I did in red. I seriously considered the air dry but the corvette yellow was the closest match to the Bilstein yellow. I want to also try the coatings for heat resistance and the low friction coatings for pistons & hopefully bearings.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1609421450.jpg

ADDvanced 12-31-2020 09:34 AM

I've had good luck with it in my Audi build.

gsxrken 12-31-2020 10:17 AM

The spray-on, air-dry sounds awfully like paint. Is it any more durable if it’s shot on dry and then baked, like Powdercoat?

Harpo 12-31-2020 11:37 AM

Cerakote
 
Very happy with how this turned out

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1609443269.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1609443347.jpg

mb911 12-31-2020 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlagerstrom (Post 11161058)
Does anybody know if the air cure versions work as well as the 2-part, heat cure?

Air cure works fantastic.. Here is a sample from my fan and housing painted with air cure picturehttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1609448600.jpg

shawn908 12-31-2020 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mb911 (Post 11161987)
Air cure works fantastic.. Here is a sample from my fan and housing painted with air cure picture

looks great - nice work! I could use something like this on the same parts in my car. Can you indicate what the lowest recc'd temperature for air cure? Basement or garage project?

Did you beta-test on a few parts a head of time to know how much to apply, or wing it?
Thinking a red fan...

AlKidd 12-31-2020 02:13 PM

Its used a lot on firearms. Holds up really well. As with powder coat, dark satin finishes show oil stains.

shawn908 12-31-2020 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harpo (Post 11161847)
Very happy with how this turned out

Harpo the results look fantastic BTW.
I’m going to google cerakote rather than ask 10 more questions. My hood emblem is cerakoted. Has held up well.
Will follow this thread.

911pcars 12-31-2020 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlKidd (Post 11162084)
Its used a lot on firearms. Holds up really well. As with powder coat, dark satin finishes show oil stains.

In the firearm samples I've seen, ceramic coatings, like most surface-applied coatings, don't do well in highly frictional assemblies (e.g. slide assemblies). However, Cerakote does better than some competing products.

Search for the superior properties of ceramic coatings (corrosion and solvent resistance, insulation properties, coating thickness, etc.)

Sherwood

josephvman 12-31-2020 05:44 PM

I had my fan and fan housing refinished with Cerakote and really happy with it.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...r9XFZHC-X3.jpg

Harpo 01-01-2021 10:14 AM

UTUBE has lots of videos on the application of CERAKOTE but they are not always doing it correctly per the manufacturer. I recommend you go directly to the CERAKOTE web site where they have videos and instructions that you can download. Large complex parts like the struts I did are a PITA and I don't know I would do it again.


Quote:

Originally Posted by shawn908 (Post 11162129)
Harpo the results look fantastic BTW.
I’m going to google cerakote rather than ask 10 more questions. My hood emblem is cerakoted. Has held up well.
Will follow this thread.


mepstein 01-01-2021 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shawn908 (Post 11162048)
looks great - nice work! I could use something like this on the same parts in my car. Can you indicate what the lowest recc'd temperature for air cure? Basement or garage project?

Did you beta-test on a few parts a head of time to know how much to apply, or wing it?
Thinking a red fan...

Be careful about spraying cerikote inside. The vapors are toxic.

gregwils 01-01-2021 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by josephvman (Post 11162251)
I had my fan and fan housing refinished with Cerakote and really happy with it.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...r9XFZHC-X3.jpg


@josephvman What color did you use on fan strap and pulley? Thanks.


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