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Pop's Old 1978 911SC Finally Out Of Storage

Hey all,

First post...since 2014 when I thought it was a funny idea planning to LS swap a 911 when having zero automotive experiences

Well, that never happened and my pop's old 1978 911SC Targa sat rotting away in storage since 2001 - until today!

I've gained some much needed experience in mechanics and learned the hard way that building a car to the point of "track only" and no longer being street worthy is a mistake.

But I'm older now and think it will be pretty cool to cruise around my dad's old Porsche on warm sunny days.

The car was put in storage because it was leaking oil onto the exhaust and smoked a lot. Around 2014 a neighbor and I pulled the engine out and found multiple broken head studs on one of the sides...so we put the engine back in and threw the car back in storage. Fingers crossed i don't have to split the case.

I have a friend who has suggested that I do the following:

- Remove heads and send them off to get reworked (new valves, seats, whatever is needed)
- ARP Head Studs
- "Peace of mind" Tensioner kit
- Complete Engine Gasket Kit


I'm sure once it's on the engine stand I'll have a better idea of all the things that need to be replaced.

I'm currently building the garage as we speak and that's set to be finished around the first of the year. Once that's done, ill be jumping right in.

Excited! Will be using this thread to document the project and ask the 10,000 questions i'm sure to come up with.




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Looks like a great candidate for a clean up, replace the head studs and drive! It really doesn’t look like it will take much to restore it to driver condition and keep it period correct.
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Good call and good luck with getting it back on the road.
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At some point Kevin you will need replacement E-85 Rated Fuel Lines through the chassis and possibly the CIS lines on the motor.

I can help.

len.cummings at verizon.net

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nice! sub as well... you dad will be proud.
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Nice!

There is a user on here named cgarr (Craig Garrett) who does great work on heads. He's in Michigan.

Also, ARP is a great choice (I use them on my latest build and already plan to use them on the next). There might be slightly more affordable, and perfectly adequate, options, using OE or OEM studs.

(Edit - also a vouch for Len "BoxsterGT"... he does good work too)
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Whelp, building the garage took longer than expedited.. Still a work in progress but it’s done enough to get the engine/trans pulled out. On the first attempt, years ago, everything was left disconnected so hopefully by the the weekend i can remove the 4 bolts, raise the rear end to the moon and get her on the stand.

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Kevin,

Post a picture of the engine bay showing your motor. Thanks.

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Post a picture of the engine bay showing your motor. Thanks.

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It looks like you have one of those sought-after fans which are smaller diameter with shorter fins.
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Kevin,

Post a picture of the engine bay showing your motor. Thanks.

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Kevin,

The picture got posted while I was typing. Thanks.

Tony
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Got a little ahead of myself today. Engine is out and on the stand. All without an engine hoist but getting it onto the stand was extremely sketchy.

Next up is finishing the workbench area, pulling the heads off and ordering some parts

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Great work! Keep posting so we can all enjoy the rejuvenation!
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Got a little ahead of myself today. Engine is out and on the stand. All without an engine hoist but getting it onto the stand was extremely sketchy.

Next up is finishing the workbench area, pulling the heads off and ordering some parts

It sure would be interesting to see how you managed to get the engine on a stand without an engine lift. I just can't imagine how you would have done it. Kudos to you.
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He probably used the Armstrong method. Two fit people can do it. Then there is the "think like an Egyptian" approach (how did they get those stones up the pyramids?).

Reinforcing a rafter and installing a place to hang a chain hoist would make future up/down moving a one person job.
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He probably used the Armstrong method. Two fit people can do it. Then there is the "think like an Egyptian" approach (how did they get those stones up the pyramids?).

Reinforcing a rafter and installing a place to hang a chain hoist would make future up/down moving a one person job.
More like a few 2 x 4s across the top of 2 ladders. Sketchy because the ATV lift/jack lifted and dropped the engine at an angle so keeping the ladders from falling felt more difficult than building the pyramids
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Whelp, we’ve got 8 broken head studs��. Once i get the heads off I’m going to order parts and it might sit for a bit while heads get rebuilt.

A few years back a friend gave me one of the Wayne’s repair and modify books so now it’s time to tear into that




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I’m looking online for the tools to remove the cam sprockets. P202 & P203…

For the crows foot tool, I’m pinching pennies here.. $47 for 1-13/16” crows foot.
Williams SCF58 Crowfoot Wrench Flare Nut, 1-13/16-Inch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005VNLP9G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_G264N96ND43AZZZ456G8?_enc oding=UTF8&psc=1

Its .002” bigger than the 46mm but I’m willing to take the risk for a 50% discount..
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When I replaced the camshaft seals a couple of years ago I bought the Stomski tool. It's much better than the crowfoot tool that can slip off, but it is pricey. Maybe someone here has one you could borrow? That camshaft nut is done up to 110 lbsft and I found it hard to undo. You don't want the tool slipping off and chewing up the nut.
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When I replaced the camshaft seals a couple of years ago I bought the Stomski tool. It's much better than the crowfoot tool that can slip off, but it is pricey. Maybe someone here has one you could borrow? That camshaft nut is done up to 110 lbsft and I found it hard to undo. You don't want the tool slipping off and chewing up the nut.
Id the tool has any play I’ll definitely reach out to some locals and see if they have the proper tool. Good looking out though!

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