"Black" LED Headlights replacing H4 show me yours

Classic11 · 03-31-2022, 11:00 AM

I have been debating for a while on what to do with my headlights, one of my H4's needs a shiny reflector and what i really want to do is go LED. Yes for better light but mainly for looks. I have looked for pictures but have a hard time finding a 911 with "Black" Led headlights. I think the dark would work well with the impact bumper rubber. Anybody done this conversion?

This is what i am looking at.

pampadori · pampadori's Garage

Do you currently have sugar scoop H4's or euro style H4's?

I don't think i could come up with something uglier for the front end of a 911 than those lights you posted a picture of. If you can cover them up somehow with a fluted lens, maybe. But if you have sugar scoops...

Classic11 · 03-31-2022, 12:10 PM

I have Euro Syle H4's, no sugar. Good thing tastes vary or we would all be after the same thing ;-)

Psychepilgrim · Psychepilgrim's Garage

I'm in the process of installing LED lights (on a white car) but in silver, not on the car yet but so far this is how it looks with Bosh OEM lens :

7783911 · 7783911's Garage

Following to see experiences with fitment...what year cars do you both have

rothaus · 04-01-2022, 05:15 AM

Here is mine.

Cheers
Engelbert

7783911 · 7783911's Garage

Engelbert

Great look, i have a Black car too...whose setup did you go with and how was the fitment..i read some horror stories on the forum...

Classic11 · 04-01-2022, 05:37 AM

Engelbert, looks great! Please share the set up, did you make it or buy?

Tinkerer · Tinkerer's Garage

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Originally Posted by rothaus

Here is mine.

Cheers
Engelbert

My sugar scoops need this upgrade, send details of the parts required and pics. thx

ADDvanced · ADDvanced's Garage

So... does anyone make a drop in lighting solution that has FOUR leds like modern porsche stuff? If not... man someone is leaving a lot of money on the table.

Psychepilgrim · Psychepilgrim's Garage

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Originally Posted by rothaus

Here is mine.

Cheers
Engelbert

Black on black, that looks great!

Psychepilgrim · Psychepilgrim's Garage

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Originally Posted by 7783911

Following to see experiences with fitment...what year cars do you both have

Mine is a 1981.

famoroso · 04-01-2022, 08:24 AM

Some side by sides for you...

Classic11 · 04-01-2022, 08:50 AM

Frank that looks great. What LED's did you end up using?

jac1976 · 04-01-2022, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Classic11

Engelbert, looks great! Please share the set up, did you make it or buy?

LEDs is what he does.

rothaus · 04-01-2022, 09:40 AM

I used to make them, but discontinued in 2020. But I'm considering to make them again.

Here is the standard chrome version on the right.

Cheers
Engelbert

PCHOutlaw · PCHOutlaw's Garage

I'm running them also, Jake over @911haus on the IG or the web site is 911-haus.com

Mr. Merk · 02:30 PM

If LED "looks" are what you're after; John uses the best 7" LED light on the market by JW Speaker.

I too, think they're ugly and my natural response is to cover them with a fluted lens, but then you're screwing up the focus of a great headlamp.

Headlamps, by the way, are safety devices. They are not fashion accessories.

The best performing option would be sugar scoops JW Speaker lamps installed.

JessL · 04-01-2022, 04:53 PM

I have Engelbert's units on my '89. They are excellent. Drop in from the H5's I had.

famoroso · 04-04-2022, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Classic11

Frank that looks great. What LED's did you end up using?

Those were Euro JW Speaker IIs, sourced from John Audette. Humorously enough, I didn't end up running them. I didn't even mount the drivers side lamp. I didn't like the look. I loved the idea of LEDs on these cars from a low current draw / high light output perspective, but once I was intellectually honest about my use case for the above pictured '88 Cab (less than 5% nighttime driving) they didn't make sense.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Merk

If LED "looks" are what you're after; John uses the best 7" LED light on the market by JW Speaker.

I too, think they're ugly and my natural response is to cover them with a fluted lens, but then you're screwing up the focus of a great headlamp.

Headlamps, by the way, are safety devices. They are not fashion accessories.

The best performing option would be sugar scoops JW Speaker lamps installed.

This^^! So much this. You and I are 100% on the same page.

On my '87 & '89 coupes, I opted to keep things simple, efficient, cost effective and lightweight by going with the tried and true Euro H4 + JWest relay solution.

If you're gonna do it, I agree that the drop-in 7" round LED units, like the JW Speakers, are the way to go for sugar scoop cars. I don't respect the idea of running a fluted lens over projector beam units. I just can't bring myself to do that.

As an aside, I hated that most (all?) of the early custom LED housing designs (i.e. not the 7" round drop ins) required removing and reinstalling the housings in order to aim the lamps.That's lazy engineering, at best, and seems like an enormous PITA.