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CO spec for ‘77 US car

Hi all, I’ve been driving my ‘77 911S for a few months now after a top end rebuild and it has been great overall. However I have a cold start issue that has been annoying. It will start but seemingly on a few cylinders only for 30 seconds or so and sometimes backfire a bit. Then it fires all 6 and runs great!

I wanted to ensure my air/fuel ratio was good on this car and also my 79 928, so I got the GasTester a couple weeks ago. I finally busted it out today to check my well warmed up 911 and noticed that the ideal spec in the books for a US car is very different from a ROW car. The 1.5-3.0 for a US car and 1.0 to 1.5 for the ROW car.

Is this due to the emissions equipment on my US spec car? Since I’ve removed all of that, would I use the ROW spec? As it is, I set it to 1.6 at 960rpm and it seems to be behaving quite well though I can’t test the cold start until much later

Photo taken during testing - using my timing light to set the RPM

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Yes, the differences in CO% are for different emissions requirements. If you deleted the US stuff, use the Euro spec, but feel free to adjust it a little richer or leaner to get it to run best.

However, that's probably not why you are have a rough cold start. Next step is to check CIS pressures, especially cold control pressure.

Does it start smoothly when warm?
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Hi, and thanks for the info. That’s what I figured!

It does indeed start well when warm. I’ve had the fuel distributor rebuilt by CIS Flowtech and have tested all the fuel pressures a few times to make sure they’re in spec.

I have an 033 WUR

System Pressure is 5 bar
CCP is 2.1 bar at 21C

I’m guessing I might have an issue with the cold start injector not working for long enough. It always fires right up - but then stumbles for 30 sec or so until it starts to run well

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