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r lane 10-08-2024 05:17 AM

3.2 Carrera no run
 
We have an 87 Carrera that came in with the complaint that it from time to time will crank but not start. It will maybe the next day correct it self. we have had it a couple of weeks and experienced this twice. Installing a test DME relay and DME unit is not the cure. We have spark, fuel, and injector pulse. What am I missing. Bob

r lane 10-08-2024 05:19 AM

I meant to add this, we have replaced the 2 speed sensors and CHT

Flat6pac 10-08-2024 05:25 AM

Years ago I had a similar problem coil had a periodic fault.
Bruce

GH85Carrera 10-08-2024 05:36 AM

Bruce has a great suggestion. If it has the new silver Bosch coil, those are at best 50-50 odds of bad out of the box.

Find 40 year old Bosch black coil and try that. The 964 coil is one possibility of a new coil for a 911 G body car.

Nick Triesch 10-08-2024 07:45 AM

You can find parts like these at European salvage yards. I have. The black coils probably were used and different model cars.

boyt911sc 10-08-2024 12:27 PM

Bob,

Have you tested the fuel pressures? The FPR could be bad. Test and verify.

Tony

r lane 10-08-2024 02:38 PM

no run
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by boyt911sc (Post 12335649)
Bob,

Have you tested the fuel pressures? The FPR could be bad. Test and verify.

Tony

I have not checked pressure or delivery and at the moment she is running. I just looked to see if fuel was coming out of the fuel rail under pressure. Other than leaking due to a ruptured diaphram, how would the FPR keep the car from at least emmiting some sort of combustion. I appreciate your response. Bob

proporsche 10-09-2024 08:35 AM

one little thing

check the ground connection on intake no 1

Ivan

brianlay 10-09-2024 09:22 AM

Next time spray some starting fluid into the intake. Quick way to determine if your problem is missing fuel or spark.

FA-18C 10-09-2024 05:37 PM

Similar issue with 88, think it was part check valve and failed FPR.

mysocal911 10-09-2024 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r lane (Post 12335698)
I have not checked pressure or delivery and at the moment she is running. I just looked to see if fuel was coming out of the fuel rail under pressure. Other than leaking due to a ruptured diaphram, how would the FPR keep the car from at least emmiting some sort of combustion. I appreciate your response. Bob

On a 911 3.2, the FP is powered by the DME relay. Without any fuel (dead DME relay or FP), NO combustion occurs. It's as simple as that!

PeteKz 10-09-2024 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianlay (Post 12336082)
Next time spray some starting fluid into the intake. Quick way to determine if your problem is missing fuel or spark.

Agree. You should carry a can of starting fluid in the car. Spray it in the intake when the car won't start to determine whether you are missing fuel or spark.

FA-18C 10-10-2024 11:01 AM

I would check the CHT as well. Failed FPR can flood the car and preclude starting. Worth checking for fouled plugs.

Lyle O 10-11-2024 09:12 AM

FWIW, I had an intermittent starting issue in my '87 a bit ago. It turned out to be the wire harness connection for the speed sensor. When I replaced the connector (at the top-back of the engine, where the 3 connectors mate to the 3 sensors), the problem was cured.

r lane 11-11-2024 05:47 AM

I do think the problem is solved. Since it was intermittent, will have to give it some time though. So we had fuel pressure, spark at a grounded plug and injector pulse but car from time to time would not fire. Customer stated that seemed to more of an issue on damp days. Resisted installing a coil as it appeared we had a healthy spark and the only coil at the time available to me was the silver Bosch coil which had a bad rap. I finally ordered a coil out of desperation. Upon switching out the coils, found moisture at the connection, the center cable to be corroded as well as the port in the coil. The new coil immediately fired the engine, cleaned everything up and the existing coil did as well. So if a spark looks good, may not be. Thanks for all responders. Bob


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