Cabriolet Carrera structural integrity

[WMichelsen]

Originally Posted by Schulisco

That's where the name "Targa" is coming from which means "shield" in italian.
Thomas

Is that true? I thought it was named after the Targa Florio race.

[Schulisco]

Originally Posted by WMichelsen

Is that true? I thought it was named after the Targa Florio race.

We're both correct...

https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2020/products/porsche-911-targa-generations-history-21010.html


Named after the Targa Florio

With the new concept, Porsche was responding to increased safety requirements for open-top cars in the American market, countering voices calling for cabriolets to be completely banned in the United States. When deciding on a name for the model, consideration was given to race tracks where Porsche has been particularly successful, quickly leading to Targa Florio – the road race in Sicily where Porsche has enjoyed great motorsport success since the mid 1950s. For a short while, “911 Flori” was under discussion, until Head of Domestic Sales Harald Wagner stumbled on the answer by asking the question: “Why don‘t we just call it Targa?” The Italian term also means “number plate”, but legend has it that this only came to light when the copywriters were working on the sales brochure. In August 1965, Porsche applied for a patent for the Targa concept and from autumn 1966 the Targa supplemented the Coupé for the 911, 911 S and 912 with resounding success. From the late summer of 1967, the Targa models could also be optionally ordered with a fixed and heated rear window made of safety glass in place of the fold-down plastic rear window. A solution that became standard equipment just a year later and which remained a feature of the targa more or less unchanged until 1993.


https://www.motor1.com/news/591489/porsche-explains-targa-name-911/


The word Targa is Italian, meaning number plate or license plate. Porsche allegedly didn’t know about this translation until the copywriters worked on the sales brochure. Porsche applied for a Targa trademark in 1965, and the Targa joined the Porsche 911 lineup in 1966.



https://dastreffenmag.com/11774/targa-origin/


911 Targa production started in 1966 in readiness for the 1967 model year. A total of 718 Targas were produced in the first twelve months of assembly. Buildnumbers were then increased from seven cars each day (compared to fifty-five 911 coupes) to ten. A sales boom was underway, although issues concerning supply and demand meant British buyers had to wait until February 1973 for the right-hand drive 911 Targa to arrive on UK soil. Porsche pitched its new design as “the world’s first safety cabriolet” — the aforementioned roll bar afforded the host vehicle structural rigidity and extra protection in recognition of what the manufacturer thought US legislators were poised to bring into law, yet the Zuffenhausen design team managed to make the Targa’s defining feature — a practical solution to a concern about driver and passenger security — a thing of beauty by affording it a brushed metal finish. A design element that would go on to become an important part of the 911’s heritage, this stainless ‘hoop’ ensured the first open-to-the-elements 911 was instantly identifiable, even to the most casual of car fans.

[doug petty]

Got an 85 cab with roll bar. Drawback is you lose leg room since the seats won't go all the way back.

[MrScratch]

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas

Yeah, good game plan. With the help of all the resources here and a couple of workshop manuals, you can do most of the work yourself keeping ownership costs right down. Newer cars; it's not so easy.

hope so. i really don't do a lot of work on my cars as i've no room. but i guess i should start.

[MrScratch]

Originally Posted by doug petty

Got an 85 cab with roll bar. Drawback is you lose leg room since the seats won't go all the way back.

Nice!
did you install it yourself or was it in when you got it
I'm 6 feet but i don't usually put the seats all the way back in my cars...
btw i love the tail look on these cars. the one i'm after doesn't have one. i'm going to look into a duck tail for it.
probably not correct at all but i love it lol

[doug petty]

I put it in, bolts to front seat belt mounts and there are factory mounts in the rear. DAS Sport makes it. I'm 6-2 and I lowered the seat mounts 1 inch, got plenty of room.

[MrScratch]

Originally Posted by doug petty

I put it in, bolts to front seat belt mounts and there are factory mounts in the rear. DAS Sport makes it. I'm 6-2 and I lowered the seat mounts 1 inch, got plenty of room.

Nice
don't have a pic with the top down handy by any chance?
thanks

[Grimm]

Ok, I have to ask, have you looked at a 964 cab? I think it would be surprised at some of the great deals out there. I know that doesn’t answer your structural integrity question, but, you would get a G50 transmission, coil over suspension, power steering, ABS, airbags, and a bigger engine.

I have a 75 Carrera, a 964 cab, and a 993 coupe, so I have some experience with these differences.

[shoooo32]

Not a fan of motorsport style roll bars in street cars. You have a much better chance of dying from a head impact to the bar in a slow speed (survivable) accident than the odds that the bar saves you in a rollover scenario. How serious is she about safety? Is she willing to wear a HANS and a helmet on the way to dinner?

Basically, if your wife won't ride in the cab without a bar, buy a Boxster.

[MrScratch]

Originally Posted by Grimm

Ok, I have to ask, have you looked at a 964 cab? I think it would be surprised at some of the great deals out there. I know that doesn’t answer your structural integrity question, but, you would get a G50 transmission, coil over suspension, power steering, ABS, airbags, and a bigger engine.

I have a 75 Carrera, a 964 cab, and a 993 coupe, so I have some experience with these differences.

No. sorry
what year is the 964?
I honestly don't know as much as i thought about these cars. i just wanted a "911"
this car is really nice and i really want it lol
should i look at 964's?

[MrScratch]

Originally Posted by Grimm

Ok, I have to ask, have you looked at a 964 cab? I think it would be surprised at some of the great deals out there. I know that doesn’t answer your structural integrity question, but, you would get a G50 transmission, coil over suspension, power steering, ABS, airbags, and a bigger engine.

I have a 75 Carrera, a 964 cab, and a 993 coupe, so I have some experience with these differences.

can you tell me your thoughts between the 3?
i'm
about to meet the guy and make an offer tomorrow lol

[pmax]

Originally Posted by MrScratch

can you tell me your thoughts between the 3?
i'm
about to meet the guy and make an offer tomorrow lol

Similar cars but with substantial changes.
Porsche 964 & 993 Technical Forum - Pelican Parts Forums

On another note, see if this works for you.

[MrScratch]

Originally Posted by pmax

Similar cars but with substantial changes.
Porsche 964 & 993 Technical Forum - Pelican Parts Forums

On another note, see if this works for you.

that looks great!
will it install behind the front seats and will i have to remove the back seats?

[pmax]

Originally Posted by MrScratch

that looks great!
will it install behind the front seats and will i have to remove the back seats?

No idea, that's for you to find out and let us know. End of the day, it's just a bunch of bolts and maybe some welding

Search for "porsche 911 speedster roll bar".

[MrScratch]

I bought the car.

[MrScratch]

Originally Posted by Alex599

I’m in the South Okanagan so my season is March to November.As for a mechanic, try Jeff at turn 3 in Langley, I’ll be taking my transaxle and engine to them this winter for a bit of love. Tire wise I run 16” Continental extreme contacts. I’m very satisfied with them. As others said; head on a swivel!

Hi
can you recommend a tire store?
looking online at pirelli, michelin, they do not have the mixed sizes that are on my car
the 205/55/zr16 215/50/zr16
the ones on my car are done.
thanks

[Ralph3.]

Nice, red is my favorite color...

[MrScratch]

Originally Posted by Ralph3.

Nice, red is my favorite color...

nice!!
so excited

[MrScratch]

Originally Posted by doug petty

Got an 85 cab with roll bar. Drawback is you lose leg room since the seats won't go all the way back.

So just realized i have to have the seat pretty far up in order to reach and work the clutch!!
i'm 6' but i feel like the car is made for someone with 4' legs and a 2' torso!!

[trials935]

I have an Autopower roll bar for sale $300 plus shipping from Cincinnati area. Does not interfere with the seat back.