Broken Seat

[Wish76]

I noticed the driver seat was able to tilt forward without using the lever and the seat back felt a little loose. Pulled the outside cover and found this:



Here's a video - https://youtube.com/shorts/zvSLK35j6TI?feature=share

It appears that the washer that was holding it in place disintegrated. Here's the view from the outside cover of the passenger seat:



Can this be fixed? Any ideas on parts?

I'm wondering if the highlighted part below was a previous repair attempt... I don't see it on any of the other mounts:



Appreciate any thoughts.

[Discseven]

Took my seats apart a while back. How the hinge worked... memory is not what it used to be so can't speak in precise detail. Do recall how things generally set up so I can offer some insight.

Looking at the vid, it's clear that the pivot for the hinge is gone. I'd be looking to drill whatever is remaining out and tap it for a new pivot bolt. Not sure that's a good solution but rather it's the first that comes to mind. Have to question drilling that out before doing so. And is there enough metal there to tap into? And what kind of bolt will go in there so the cover can be put back? A number of questions to answer before going down this path. The idea is to get some form of a "pivot" put back in there. The "how" of that can take any number of paths. I think to replace that bracket with the hinge might----might----be major surgery. Not sure about that.

Seat tilting forward without needing to be released to do so sounds like a "disconnect." If you have that lever on the side of the seat for "tilt control," there's a rod that runs from it to the hinge area. I'd suggest looking at that rod's connections being a starting point for that. Might be possible to inspect that rod's connections with the seat in the car but much easier (in my opinion) to deal with this seat stuff by removing the seat from the car. There are two Allen bolts at each corner of the seat to undo. Might be some electrical wires so look carefully before lifting the seat out of the car.

[Wish76]

Originally Posted by Discseven

Took my seats apart a while back. How the hinge worked... memory is not what it used to be so can't speak in precise detail. Do recall how things generally set up so I can offer some insight.

Looking at the vid, it's clear that the pivot for the hinge is gone. I'd be looking to drill whatever is remaining out and tap it for a new pivot bolt. Not sure that's a good solution but rather it's the first that comes to mind. Have to question drilling that out before doing so. And is there enough metal there to tap into? And what kind of bolt will go in there so the cover can be put back? A number of questions to answer before going down this path. The idea is to get some form of a "pivot" put back in there. The "how" of that can take any number of paths. I think to replace that bracket with the hinge might----might----be major surgery. Not sure about that.

Seat tilting forward without needing to be released to do so sounds like a "disconnect." If you have that lever on the side of the seat for "tilt control," there's a rod that runs from it to the hinge area. I'd suggest looking at that rod's connections being a starting point for that. Might be possible to inspect that rod's connections with the seat in the car but much easier (in my opinion) to deal with this seat stuff by removing the seat from the car. There are two Allen bolts at each corner of the seat to undo. Might be some electrical wires so look carefully before lifting the seat out of the car.

We’ll… I got the seat out and started disassembling; the pivot hinge is NOT broken/missing… it just receded into the housing as the e-clip broke. Until I got in there and hit it with a little degreaser, you couldn’t even see that there was a space for a clip as there’s zero documentation online. Best I found was this diagram https://www.eurospares.co.uk/Porsche/911/911_(1985)/PartDiagrams/808-020/FRONT_SEAT_-_D_-__MJ_1985%3E%3E, but even it doesn’t show the hinge and e-clip; they're not listed anywhere I could find as detachable parts.

The pic below shows the order that the parts reassemble:



Waiting for some new parts to put back together.

[jgurnari]

do you still have the video showing the seat hinge repair??

I cant figure out how to get the inside sleeve part back in, circled in photo..

I cant seem to get the backrest off the hinges to make it easier in order to push it into the hinge. I pushed both sides of the parts into the backrest but still cant get the back rest off the hinge.
trying to get that sleeve into the hole looking through the small space between the hinge and the seat back while to tiring to line it up. hard to do!

Originally Posted by Wish76

I noticed the driver seat was able to tilt forward without using the lever and the seat back felt a little loose. Pulled the outside cover and found this:



Here's a video - https://youtube.com/shorts/zvSLK35j6TI?feature=share

It appears that the washer that was holding it in place disintegrated. Here's the view from the outside cover of the passenger seat:



Can this be fixed? Any ideas on parts?

I'm wondering if the highlighted part below was a previous repair attempt... I don't see it on any of the other mounts:



Appreciate any thoughts.

[jgurnari]

Originally Posted by Wish76

I noticed the driver seat was able to tilt forward without using the lever and the seat back felt a little loose. Pulled the outside cover and found this:



Here's a video - https://youtube.com/shorts/zvSLK35j6TI?feature=share

It appears that the washer that was holding it in place disintegrated. Here's the view from the outside cover of the passenger seat:



Can this be fixed? Any ideas on parts?

I'm wondering if the highlighted part below was a previous repair attempt... I don't see it on any of the other mounts:



Appreciate any thoughts.

[Wish76]

Originally Posted by jgurnari

do you still have the video showing the seat hinge repair??

I cant figure out how to get the inside sleeve part back in, circled in photo..

I cant seem to get the backrest off the hinges to make it easier in order to push it into the hinge. I pushed both sides of the parts into the backrest but still cant get the back rest off the hinge.
trying to get that sleeve into the hole looking through the small space between the hinge and the seat back while to tiring to line it up. hard to do!

Here's the video https://youtube.com/shorts/oMzxJhwluGA?feature=share; not sure why it disappeared.

If you send me a pic or video of where you are, I'll try to recall how I got it all back together.

[mikecarrera]

Hey wish76! I have an '86 3.2 carrera with the exact same problem. I can't find any existing e-clips OR the washer ring you show in the reassembly so will need to buy new ones.

Could you please confirm exactly what size e-clip and washer rings you acquired to do the repair? 🙏

Cheers
Mike

[Wish76]

Originally Posted by mikecarrera

Hey wish76! I have an '86 3.2 carrera with the exact same problem. I can't find any existing e-clips OR the washer ring you show in the reassembly so will need to buy new ones.

Could you please confirm exactly what size e-clip and washer rings you acquired to do the repair? 🙏

Cheers
Mike

Hi Mike. the e-clip is an M12 (24mm OD). The washer has an ID of 13mm. Hope that helps!

[mikecarrera]

Awesome, thank you!

Anything else to note in terms of the reassembly? does the e-clip and washer fit as per your image both on the outside of the hinge?

[jgurnari]

did you fix it? video is gone

[Wish76]

Originally Posted by mikecarrera

Awesome, thank you!

Anything else to note in terms of the reassembly? does the e-clip and washer fit as per your image both on the outside of the hinge?

Yes, the e-clip and the washer go on the outside. You just need to ensure you get the bolt (circled in yellow in my pics above) extracted enough to be able to to get the e-clip onto it.

I wish I documented the repair better, but to be honest, once it snapped into place I quickly forgot about it 🙄