930 Story, is it true?
 

I use to work for a company named Fleetwood, the manufacture RV's and were the largest in the country, anyway the owner of the company use to store his cars in a warehouse on at our facility. At the time he had a 1988 Porsche Turbo, which he had imported. The car would not pass Calif smog, so he just put it in storage. It came a time that he was selling the car,some of the managers test drove it. One of the guys, after the test drive told me the car was extremely fast, so fast that he would bet me, that if he put a $100 on the dash and under hard acceleration, there would be no way I could get out of the seat to get the $100 bill. I never took this guy up on the offer, but just curious if a 930 actually pulls enough G's to suck you to the seat...

Any 930 owners testify to this??????Maybe this could be an supplemental income...........

no.

sorry. a lot of those types of stories get bantered around the muscle car circles, too. so-and-so's chevelle, this road runner this guy knew of, etc.

think: if it were true, how would you shift into third?

uncle's 930, stock, was quick. now it's efi'd and has massive upgrades. I'm in charge 'laptop data aquisition' while we're going speeds you're not supposed to go on interstates. unless i'm superhumanly strong (wouldn't that rock?), there's no problem. it's a solid 12 second car, too.

now, scare factor, maybe. a friend had a supercharged mustang that ran low 12's. i'd never been in a car THAT fast before, and it scared the hell out of me. so, no, i guess i couldn't grab anything at that point but the door handle and the center console...

-Doug

I think that it is a combination of Newton's Laws and how bad you need the money. Betting that you would need F1 performance for it to be true.

My 930 is heavily modified, so I'm not sure it's fair to include my experience, but I have a challenge under full boost getting the stretch sufficient to get it from 2nd to 3rd with a short shift kit in the car....

Wouldn't the $100 bill just come back and fly through your chest?

Uh, you aren't accelerating with the clutch in while shifting into 3rd, now are you?

hmm... well, i'm used to american cars with transmissions that work (although I'm amazed at how well a 930 trans works), and i don't lift in the superbird/mustang... the time on the clutch isn't much.

if that's not good enough, how about 'how would you push in the clutch?' instead...

semantics aside, no stock 930 will pin you so hard you couldn't make change for that $100 bill on a quarter mile pass. the claim is still ridiculous.

It would take A LOT of g to keep you from being able to reach to the dash. Even on a catapult shot off an aircraft carrier, the force isn't so great that you wouldn't be able to do this... and I don't even think a dragster can accelerate to over 150mph in it's first couple of seconds.

I think that settles that. :D

That "hundred dollar bill on the dash" story is older than the wheel itself, I think that cavemen started it w/ fast rhinocerous and camels, you know, "I'll tape this c-note to his horns, and if you can grab it when I hold this flame to his balls......." :rolleyes:

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LOL!!!

Ok, I'll break down and admit it -- I'm an engineer. The weak point in the "reach for the dash" system is your abdominals, and you're essentially doing a single situp. How much weight can you carry on your chest while doing situps? Assume that you're lifting about half of your body weight, so if you can do a single situp with (in my case) 80lbs on your chest, that'd be like reaching forward under 1G of acceleration. Calculate the acceleration based on the given times, then go to the gym and take some data.

Dan

Dan, that sounds valid except that in the car you are also stretching your arms and could possibly use your arm to brace yourself on the seat back, but yes, sounds like you've got the right test in mind.

My dad used to try & feed me that same B.S. line about the Shelby GT500. :rolleyes:

I own a moded 88 Turbo and the story is false. Yes, when the turbo kicks in it does push you back. But not to the point that you can't reach out with you arm and touch the dash. You should have taken the bet.

If it was my g-note on the dash it would be no contest - my wife could grab it from the bottom of a black hole :rolleyes:

Carrol Shelby said that about his 427 Cobra also, unfortunatley its not true in either car. Things do move quickly, in my Ferrari 328 I think wow I am really going fast in the 930 you don't have time to even think that, you are already haulin,you look around and telephone poles look like a picket fence.

Yeah, I figured the mass of your arm is almost negligible in this calculation, and assumed that you weren't pulling yourself "up" on the door. But then, I've been known to approximate squares as circles to make the math easier. :)

Dan

Dan, I'm no engineer, but doing a "sit-forward" from a vertical position is a lot easier than doing a situp from a prone position. With a force of 1g, leaning forward to get the bill would be like doing a situp with no additional weight carried on your chest. But you're right, leaning forward against the force is all about upper body mass and abdominal strength.

ROTFLMAO!!!