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William Miller 09-27-2004 07:01 AM

SC Windsheild Install
 
Can't get it in.
Need help with process or more muscle.

History. A little more than a year ago I had the original windsheild replaced. A local glass shop in Rockville (Can't remember the name) installed a PPG windsheild in the old gasket. To say the least it leaked at the bottom corners.

Now that the cars is painted I attemped to install the glass with a new gasket and am having trouble getting the bottom corners. The wire is comming arround the corner, but the inside lip of the rubber is not staying on the inside of the ridge/flange.

Here's what I did.
1. Read as much as I could on Pelican Parts BBS.
2. Per a suggestion on PP, I fit the trim arround the edge of the glass bending it slightly so it would match the glass exactly.
3. Lubed the seal with liquid dish soap. (Maybe too much?)
4. Installed the seal on the glass.
5. Installed the trim on the seal. Fit well, but has a tendancy to pop off. (Too much lube?)
6. Installed a piece of wire in the outside channel where the ridge on the frame will seat. This was a piece of 14-16 gauge insulated wire. (Is this too small?) I installed the wire so the 2 ends stick out at the bottom and lay on the dashboard.
7. There is a little flap of rubber that's maybe 3/16 wide. If left to it's own it covers the channel where the wire goes. One thought was that this should be tucked into the channell, but my second thought was that it shouldn't because the wire would pull it out anyway.
8. Insert the glass into the opening starting with the bottom and then leaning the top back. This is a snug fit , but you can see a crack of light at the bottom corners.
9. With my 3 kids standing in the trunk and leaning on the windsheild and one other man on the passangers side we leaned as hard as possible and zipped the 2 wires starting at the bottom and working to the corners and arround to the top. It appeared to work fine except for the bottom corners.

When I tried it by myself I could get one corner in but then the whole thing would slip/slide to the other side and open the gap again.
Anyway I need some more pointers and/or help.

Is the size of my cord a problem? I recall watching this on another cars and installed one on the Jeep I had many years ago. I recall using a piece of string about 3/16 or 1/4".

Too much Lube?

Am I starting at the wrong place with the cord?

Do I not have enough weight? I feel like if I get enough weight pushing in It will push the glass back into the corner and once the lip is on the right side of the flange it will stay in place.

Any thoughts appreciated.

It seams there are continual debates about sealant. Any thoughts?
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Thanks!
WCM (Bill) 83SC Euro Cabriolet
(Under renovation, pardon my dust!)
Darnestown, Maryland

Eric Mckenna 09-27-2004 07:05 AM

I thought you installed the alloy trim after you installed the window.

Eric

RoninLB 09-27-2004 09:14 AM

I'm not a pro.

I learned that the opening is larger than routine cars to allow it to be kicked out from inside in an accident. I used Redline axle grease to allow adjustment after install. I used 2 big heavy guys pushing on the glass while I removed the small dia, maybe 3/16, rope. I double turned the rope, so I removed two turns with the rope on install. I used dum dum on lower corners and lower center to help center glass. The outside top corners seal is easily installed leaving a space or ittty bit of gasket covering there.

jpnovak 09-27-2004 09:36 AM

I have always roped in the bottom corners first. Its easier to push on the top. Like Ronin said, two turns of the rope in the seal. This way if you miss the first time you have one more chance before pulling it out. I usually use Silicone grease/spray as a lube.

William Miller 09-27-2004 09:37 AM

I like the double turn trick!
A member at www.dorkiphus.com sugested starting at the top which I will also try.
WD40 lube for the trim since it dries and the trim will more likely stay in place.
This is all good stuff.
Any more? !!!!

William Miller 09-27-2004 09:45 AM

Hey Jamie, I still have your parts. Some of them will make it onto my project. Still haven't figured out what that fan was from.
You want me to mail you a crab cake?

Anyone know what that extra little lip is for and where it's supposed to go?

RoninLB 09-27-2004 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by William Miller

Anyone know what that extra little lip is for and where it's supposed to go?

on the Blue Claw's ?

the window gasket is to complicated for my salted brain to understand.. sorry

William Miller 09-27-2004 10:30 AM

Maryland is the place for Blue Crabs.
They are found many other places in fact I hear that many of the ones we eat are from Louisanna. There expensive here so I catch my own most of the time. When I go to North Carolina to the beach in the summer there real cheap. Small too because I think they ship the bigger ones to Maryland where the prices are high.

Ronin, I think you know I was refereing to the little extra lip on the seal.
I'm searching for pictures, but can't find one to show you what I'm talking about.

RoninLB 09-27-2004 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by William Miller
Maryland is the place for Blue Crabs.
They are found many other places

I'm searching for pictures, but can't find one to show you what I'm talking about.

we get them up here too.. not like the 1950's and 60's though.

the seal has so many sealing ridges that a complete answer would make a great "New Post".... go figure.


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