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cwilson911 03-09-2011 03:09 PM

Need More Positive Camber
 
I'm sure that this will be an easy one for most of you but I'm stumped.

I restored my 77 Carrera 3.0L Euro and in the process of rebuilding the front end mounted early Turbo (year uncertain) A-Arms and not my originals.

During the front alignment, we had to push out the struts all the way against the bodywork to get to 1/2 degree of negative camber. Prior to this, I never had problem with camber and body interferrences.

So, before I rip and tear, I thought that I would get some advise from the group.

Thank you in advance.....

Flieger 03-09-2011 04:31 PM

Are both sides equal? If not, the strut is likely bent.

So, what camber setting are you trying for. Most of us like negative camber. The more the better for a spirited driver.

cwilson911 03-09-2011 04:48 PM

Both sides are equal. Struts are the same one's that were on the car before the issue. Just no way they could have gotten damaged.
Trying to get back to original spec (0).
What bothers me is that the struts were basically centered in the body openings prior. I am out of adjustment.....

Flieger 03-09-2011 04:51 PM

Well, maybe Turbo arms are longer. I always thought they were the same, except that the crossmember, chassis, and front bushing mounts were modified so that the A-arm axis is inclined in side view.

cwilson911 03-09-2011 04:56 PM

Me too....

Well...only one way to find out, I guess. Will let you know in a few days. Thanks for the feedback...

Tyson Schmidt 03-09-2011 05:23 PM

Ride height will have an effect. Did you lower the car at all when you did the swap?

cwilson911 03-09-2011 06:02 PM

No geometry changes to ride height due to parts but do have it dialed down a little lower than normal.

nesslar 03-09-2011 06:16 PM

How low? Pictures? Sounds like you "built in" camber by doing that "ugly low front end thing"...don't worry or be upset, please, that's just my opinion. I stand by the old 3/4" to 1" diff., front fender lip relative to rear....
Edit: for general street use, the "0" you seek, with maybe -1 out back is perfect?

DRACO A5OG 03-09-2011 11:49 PM

"Ugly" well a bit harsh on Track Guys, no?

In any case, to each his own.

When I lowered my car and replaced bushings, my passenger side strut was bent and I could not get enough positive camber to obtain .75 negative, it was pegged at 1.8 negative camber.

Took it to Johnsons and had it fixed, all good now.

Tyson Schmidt 03-09-2011 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwilson911 (Post 5892151)
No geometry changes to ride height due to parts but do have it dialed down a little lower than normal.

If you lowered the ride height, then there's your answer.

BTW, -.5 camber is just fine. In fact, very typical for a car at Euro height.

stlrj 03-10-2011 08:47 AM

To be more specific, the Porsche Spec Book calls for 0 degrees for euro height and 0.5 degrees positive for US versions. 1/2 negative just means you are slightly lower than euro height.



Cheers,

Joe

DRACO A5OG 03-10-2011 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stlrj (Post 5893214)
To be more specific, the Porsche Spec Book calls for 0 degrees for euro height and 0.5 degrees positive for US versions. 1/2 negative just means you are slightly lower than euro height.



Cheers,

Joe

And the Spec for Euro Rear?

stlrj 03-10-2011 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRACO A5OG (Post 5893219)
And the Spec for Euro Rear?

0.5 neg.

DRACO A5OG 03-10-2011 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stlrj (Post 5893237)
0.5 neg.

Thanks Brother, if I ever need to go back to Euro Spec SmileWavy

Flieger 03-10-2011 10:13 AM

Porsche only speced 0.5 positive since the front was so high they could not get zero. Positive camber is detrimental to both handling and tire wear.

cwilson911 03-10-2011 03:13 PM

Makes sense regarding lowering.

We'll raise the "ugly" (no offense taken) out of it and see where it leaves me. Thanks....


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