72S For Sale - Wow!

[speeder]

The engine compartment shown appears to be from a repainted car; very nicely detailed and if from '72 car for sale shows high-quality resto/freshening. Technically "incorrect", but not really since Porsche decided that this treatment looked better the next(?) year. Kind of thing that would only bother a concours judge, and we know what Ferry Porsche thought of them. It's a nice car. $34k? If that's the market this moment; supply and demand and all that, can't really compare to $34k new pickup truck, more people want the truck by a ratio of about 2 million to one, last year anyways.

[pwd72s]

Denis, judging from the engine compartment paint, I'd think that this is a beautifully redone but not original car. Did Porsche go to body color in '73 because it looked better, or because it was cheaper to do? In '72, the engine compartment and the bottom of the car were done in black...in '73, this step was eliminated from the producion line. A minor point, I suppose. Original vs. an excellent re-do? I'd think that's the buyer's decision. Obviously, this is one very nice car. A total of 1750 1972 911S coupes were produced, world wide. According to Bruce Anderson figures published in the Early 911S Registry's newsletter, only 278 of the 1750 were imported into the USA.
les paul guy? "The 930 has always been Porsche's top of the line flagship".... Uh, wanna take a guess which car was the top of the line flagship before the 930 came along? I repeat...I'm not interested in trading my car for a Turbo...it's a response and connection feeling that is more important to me than the raw power.
If, as earlier stated, this car has sold? The buyer need have no remorse about maybe having "paid too much". And if this buyer prefers an early S over the "flagship" Turbo, he shouldn't feel guilty about that either.

[cegerer]

Technically, in the years the 930 was produced, Porsche's flagship was the 928.

"if you're more of a collector, buy the 72 911S but if you're more of a driver, buy the 930 or the 996 for that matter.", les paul guy

I am a driver, not a collector, and that's exactly why I prefer the early cars! If I wanted the fastest car in town, I probably wouldn't buy a Porsche at all. It's all about the quick, light, responsive, mechanical simplicity of the early cars. 930/996's totally lack these characteristics. -- Curt

[orbmedia]

Don't be so sure that the car is redone just from looking at the engine compartment. While '72 and earlier cars may have had a black painted compartment and bottom isn't it possible that this is a late '72 and the production line switched over to the body color scheme? I mean I've seen that before so don't assume before you research it. I'm not saying it hasn't been redone, I'm just saying that Porsche did alot of late-model-year switches that could fool someone strictly judging by calendar model year.

[pwd72s]

"isn't it possible that this is a late '72 and the production line switched over to the body color scheme?"

Orb? I think anything's possible, but in this case, I don't think so. The VIN# is earlier than my car...my car is black in the engine compartment, with specks of irish green showing through...which leads me to suspect that the engine compartment black was hand applied, with a brush.

[speeder]

Of course there is nothing better to a collector, (even a collector of one car), than a mint original like Paul's, next best thing is a NICE CAR that has been restored right. Not overdone, but to the quality level of factory or as close as possible. It has to start out as a nice car; "you cannot turn a pickle back into a cucumber", as they say.

People on this board own some very beautiful and valuable cars, but I have to burst anyone's bubble who believes in "perfect" cars. As I've stated previously, I used to sell them new at P/A dealership, we used to touch up nicks using the matchhead method on brand-new 911's all the time. Even new German cars get scratched and nicked in transit, I've seen a dumb prep guy burn thru one w/ buffer-wheel, (they repainted panel and sold it), don't forget BMW's class-action suit over "new" cars w/ panels repainted at the port due to shipping damage, (panels were fading at different rates on "accident free" one owner cars). After working in Porsche organization even at final purchase level I saw some stuff that buyers would not like, to put it mildly.

Why bring this up? Just ties into the whole concours thing- one of my pet peeves, cars were made to be driven- and the illusions involved w/ so-called "perfect cars". I have nothing against REALLY NICE cars like Paul's that get driven as a second car and obviously give him a lot of enjoyment. My dad has one like that.

[Randy W]

Curt, I couldn't agree with you more about why many of us prefer these early cars to drive. You seem to be on the same wavelength (including your last "Critique this RS Clone" post). Thanks again for confirming my viewpoint.

Topics like these certainly show all our different views of what makes a certain 911 model valuable and what is important to us. I'm glad we have this forum to entertain and educate us all - I know I've learned alot and have had my share of laughs along the way.

[pwd72s]

It was a lot of fun, wasn't it Randy? Now, since the car has sold, all we have to do is wait for the new owner to 'fess up. Then he could be told: "Gee, for that much money, you could have had..."
A personal tale from long ago...I'd just bought my first Porsche, a then new 1966 912. So, when I went to the family insurance agent at the time, I was told: "Gosh Paul, you could insure a new Caddy for these rates." Obviously, this insurance agent & I didn't share the same automotive taste. Kind of nice to have choices, isn't it?

[cegerer]

Are you sure it's sold? The seller eMailed me last night and didn't mention a pending sale? -- Curt

[Kevin Reilly]

Originally posted by cegerer
Are you sure it's sold? The seller eMailed me last night and didn't mention a pending sale? -- Curt

I can forward his email to me if you like.