Long Overdue Introduction
 

Hello-
I've been lurking around this board getting answers for over five years. The help that I have received here has been unbelievable. For whatever reason, I never registered. So I thought I should do it and show off my green T.

This is a 1973.5 911T with the "S" trim and suspension package. It was purchased from the original owner about 7 years ago. It had 15K original miles on it when purchased and it is up to 28k miles right now. The original owner drove it for 15 years and then it sat in his garage for another 15 before his wife told him he had to sell it. They had a one car garage with a one car wide driveway. When we asked him what he had done to the car he didn't understand the question. All he had done, and really all he had to do, for 15 years was change the oil. It had the original spark plugs, brake pads, and tires. The cookie cutter wheels in the picture are original and they are tubed. The only cosmetic change we have done to the car is the addition of the Fuchs wheels and modern tires. I have the originals bagged in my basement, and throw them on sometimes for car shows. You feel every bump with those tires. We brought it home and changed the rotors, pads, spark plugs, points, and we were finished. It sure is a lot simpler when you buy a car with zero rust.

I have only changed what has broken on this car. The paint and interior is original. The first week we had it, we added the pop-off valve to the box. The engine had to come out in 2006 because the oil leaks were becoming too numerous to ignore. All the seals were replaced and the carrera valve covers were added. Two years ago the main fuel line from the tank to the distributor was leaking and had to be replaced. This year the rear passenger side started to sag bad so I replaced the rear shocks. It has left me stranded twice. I thought I was doing good by replacing the original coil with the infamous silver one. It lasted two years and stopped working mid intersection. It has been running with the original ever since with a spare in my tool bag. The other time was the fuel pump giving out. I know there are lots of small fixes, but that is the major stuff. I just drive it until something breaks then fix it. Which is about every other year. I am still waiting for the cd box or fuel distributor to go. Those will sting.

That's my abbreviated green T story. I hope you enjoyed it. I can't believe how much these T's are going for lately. I think I need to get it reappraised. It's probably insured for half of what it's worth. If anyone can give some insight for a value for this car I am all ears.


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Wow. Great car, great find, great story. I have to ask for more pictures -- inside & out!

Wow!= Talk about it being time!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NICE!

Doyle

Greetings,
I expect that you will get estimates of worth all over the place....but here's mine. For an unmolested, original everything, very low miles T.............I'd say $40-$50K to the right buyer.
I'd post this on the Early S Registry to get the early car experts opinions.

MMMMMM......Sheboygen Brats..........I just had an Elkhart Lake/ Road America flashback.

Regards,
Al

Now that's a proper introduction...... nice to get a little history on a car :)

Beautiful car, love the color

Regards,

Mike

Those cookies look so good I'd keep them on and store the Fuch's.


Cheers,

Joe

Very cool story. Welcome.......finally!

Cool! Welcome.


An unmolested longhood....very very hard to find for less than $30k and that's probably low low low end.


Welcome.

Just thinking the same thing. Not usually a big fan but I think the cookie cutters look great on that car.

OMG, GreenT, that is the most beautiful car. Just beautiful. And I loved reading your post. More pictures please. I love green and that green is just gorgeous. I love your car...

Btw, what green is that? I didn't see that you posted the color? Just that it was the original paint. Or I might have missed it when I was drooling at your car...

Thanks for (finally) posting. Great story, great looking T. I'll chime in with the others, more pics please inside & out.

+100! Very cool to see these stories pop up every now and then..... Can't wait for my turn at the 'barn find'! Much to like with a green 'T', even the cookie cutters look nice..


Future plans to drop it to euro ride height and corner balance?

Enjoy it and post up the pics!

Nice car and I love the color. That's a keeper for sure...

Nice story, though I would lower the car (and corner-balance and align) for safety. At least remove the strut spacer. The ride height was just to get the bumpers at the right height, aerodynamics be damned. Unsafe and costs you time around the twisties.

Your story is a great read and the car is a beautiful ride.

I'm also curious about that gorgeous green -- is it a factory color? Respray?

Here is some valuation info:

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Hi
 

Looks like Metallic Green.

Agreed, it is a beautiful untouched car....That being said, it wouldn't hurt to at least bring the height to euro spec.

Excellent first post and what a find! Thanks for sharing!

Thanks for all of the kind words. I totally agree about lowering it to euro spec. I've been putting it off for years. I've also been tinkering with the idea of putting the cookie cutters back on. They do seem to fit this color. I will take some more pics this weekend with my new camera. Thanks again everyone.

Too bad because a big part of its appeal is the fact that it remains untouched as it came from the factory creating a refreshing first impression.


Cheers,

Joe

You just summed up my entire relationship with this car. I have always enjoyed modifying cars, keeping the original look while adding modern power and handling. Because this is so original I can't do anything to this car except wait for something to fail. I have always thought about the euro spec, only because it can easily be changed back if needed.

The US ride height was just a quick kludge by the factory to get the cars to meet the bumper height spec (and the ugly rubber things were for the impact specs). They did not want to make special parts just for the US so they raised the cars which was easy and did not require new parts or new crash tests.

I do not see any problem in correcting the ride height to what Porsche intended, and to what they made for the more sporting German market with their Autobahn.

OMG is that car nice! Great intro and a beautiful car. Bring it out to Road America this weekend. We have a bunch of Midwest Early 911 guys that are going to be there and would love to see that car.

Now, as far as value, I'll put a bet on north of the highest number cited here so far. Ultra low miles, original paint, ect. - those cars go for very strong numbers. Enjoy and hope to see you at RA.

Lowering it will not alter that value - it is just minutes of work to put it back to the poor performing US ride ht.

I do agree that anything you modify on this one should be easily put back, or don't do it.

I think that if you just lower the front an inch (maybe 3/4") you will be lookin' good, and the ride will be fine, i.e., not too low. Should look great. I'd say the rear is just right.
Edit: Looks like the rear is already down from the first picture....any lower and you are just a "lowrider"...not a basically 'stock' Porsche....let the tires show; beautiful car.

Hello RWebb,

where did you get the valuation chart from. Is that somewhat official?

Awesome color. Keep it as original (not even restored) as possible to help maintain the value.

I made the valuation chart from Bruce Anderson's column that appears in Excellence magazine.

Many become unhappy when they see that their child is likely not worth as much as they think or would like, so there is some controversy about it, esp. by the concoursy type of 911S owners.

But it represents the only actual collection of data I have seen.

That said, your car might be worth even more based on the nice pics above.

My car is worth a lot to me since I did nearly all the mechanical work on it and made it the way I liked it (except for the nagging problem of getting McLaren to do a custom CF tub for me).

For insurance, if you list a value, list a bit high.

say, have you seen this?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/189572-long-term-commonly-neglected-maintenance-3.html?postid=2955054#post2955054

there is also a sister thread (cross-linked) that has a downloadable chart one guy made up, but w/o pics

That is a beautiful car. Either wheel works, IMHO I just prefer the Fuch's.

How about some additional pic's so we can all slobber....:>)...on our keyboards

Really cool


Karl
88 Targa

Karl, I am still drooling... Yes, more pictures. Pretty please.

Cars like yours are outside of the box, value-wise. No doubt that keeping her in a garage holding the miles down would have made her even more valuable, but the real value is in owning and enjoying a car like that.

You should indeed get an appraisal. That is a special car.

Leaving the ride height where it is just screams orignial and untouched which is what is most impressive and rare at the same time.

Thats one sweet ride, more pic's if you have them.
Finn

+1 on what RWebb suggested. Go through your paperwork and baseline any maintenance items that are overdue or that you cannot find.