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doppel 01-30-2012 07:34 AM

snap-on scissor lift differences
 
I am in the market for a used snap-on scissor lift. It appears there are 2 different versions in the used market, an older "open" version and a newer "closed" version with solid deck. does anyone have experience with both of these and can shed some light on the differences.

- I did look at one of the older versions this weekend and saw that the lift height was about 35" and had only one locking position, does the newer version have more locking positions?

- What is the difference between (old) single and (new) dual cylinder lift? Is this a safety thing?

- If I am buying used, are there any particular things to look out for?

- Does anyone know where there is an online user manual for these lifts?

Thanks,
Scott

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matt demaria 01-30-2012 07:45 AM

I have the old version. I bought it in the promo form about ten (?) years ago. I use it in a commercial environment. It is rated at 6000 lbs. It has been absolutely reliable. I believe the closed deck version is rated at 8000 lbs and maybe a few inches taller.
I don't think I ever got an operators manual for it. Contact wheeltronics for a manual although snap-on bought out the company about 7 years ago.

timmy2 01-30-2012 09:36 AM

I have older version too. Picked it up for $850 this summer. Works great. Mine came with laminated instructions, I could scan and send to you if you pm me an email addy for you.

Dave Colangelo 01-30-2012 10:04 AM

I have been looking at the newer version from a local garage that is getting rid of it. My only issue is that your cant access the under belly, but with these cars there is really nothing there so it does not matter to me. I want to get my car up on it and see if I can access all the front suspension components. If I can, I see no need to have the open access of the older lift.

Regards
Dave

Tidybuoy 01-30-2012 11:56 AM

Not that it matters than much on a 911, but I would think the older version would be better for inspecting the underside of the car - which is blocked by the newer solid surface style.

ChemMan 01-30-2012 12:50 PM

I have the older one too. Works great. You can call snap on and they will email you the manual.

rfuerst911sc 01-30-2012 04:07 PM

I have a Ammco brand scissor similiar to the old style you posted. Like others have stated the open design is better for overall inspection because you can see through it and put your hands through it to work on items. The items I looked at when I looked at mine was are there any oil leaks, and cracked welds and did the lift lock work ? I found no problems so I bought it. Fantastic addition to any garage.

Louie85 01-30-2012 06:18 PM

I have the newer version (solid top) it has more locking position could be five or more i haven't got around counting it.

Louie85 01-30-2012 06:26 PM

Here's the parts manual for the solid deck.
http://www.snaponequipment.com/Common/ServiceParts/EELR338A%20parts.pdf

doppel 01-31-2012 06:27 AM

Thanks everyone for the responses, I will contact snap-on to get instr. manuals.

I do have a couple of motorcycles so I am leaning towards the newer version which will accomodate those nicely, and I like the idea of having the option to lock at different heights.

Has anyone found a way to lift a bike on the older version? Maybe someone has welded up an insert to lay between the beams?

Cheers,
Scott

doppel 02-02-2012 02:22 PM

Just saw one of the old style lifts in pneumatic, can anyone give any insight into pros/cons of these in pneumatic vs. hydraulic?

Thanks,
Scott

doppel 02-03-2012 12:10 PM

For future reference:
Old hydraulic model#: EELR300A
New hydraulic model#: EELR338A
Snap-On will send instruction manuals (thanks matt), just call 1-800-225-5786

Cheers,
Scott

rnln 02-07-2013 02:45 PM

Snap-on lift for $850? You are very lucky.

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Originally Posted by timmy2 (Post 6526588)
I have older version too. Picked it up for $850 this summer. Works great. Mine came with laminated instructions, I could scan and send to you if you pm me an email addy for you.


timmy2 02-07-2013 03:14 PM

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Very patient, looked all summer, and the guy selling it don't know it was a snap on. Only said
Wheeltronic on it.

montauk 02-07-2013 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rnln (Post 7258803)
Snap-on lift for $850? You are very lucky.

I've got snapon hand tools and they are excellent. I've also got a bluepoint (snapon) meter that is nothing to write home about. Is a used midrise snap on that much better than a midrise bendpak or is it Bluepoint quality?

Thanks
Dave

nineball 02-07-2013 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doppel (Post 6528224)
Thanks everyone for the responses, I will contact snap-on to get instr. manuals.

I do have a couple of motorcycles so I am leaning towards the newer version which will accomodate those nicely, and I like the idea of having the option to lock at different heights.

Has anyone found a way to lift a bike on the older version? Maybe someone has welded up an insert to lay between the beams?

Cheers,
Scott


i have the better of the two bike lifts that hf used to sell and it has served me flawlessly for the past 6 years or so. got it for under $500 when it was on sale.

i noticed they only sell the manual version (mine is air-powered as well as foot pump) now but it is currently on sale for $424.

Motorcycle Lift Table, 1000 Lb. Capacity

rnln 02-07-2013 11:32 PM

We have some snap-on and other brand hand tools. I personally think for home used, I don't need the spend the money on the snap-on; but regardless of price, I like the snap-on better than, let say, sears a lot. As for mid rise lift, I don't have personal experience with snap-on, but when I was searching for a second hand one, I felt $850 is an ok price for a no name. Snap-on, bendpak were always far from $1k.

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Originally Posted by montauk (Post 7258946)
I've got snapon hand tools and they are excellent. I've also got a bluepoint (snapon) meter that is nothing to write home about. Is a used midrise snap on that much better than a midrise bendpak or is it Bluepoint quality?

Thanks
Dave


drola 09-25-2013 11:52 AM

i am about to buy one of the new style snap on lifts. do you guys have any issues with the motor/tranny clearing the back of the lift when removing from car?
it seems like the tranny is too far under the car and the lift will be in the way.

docrodg 09-25-2013 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doppel (Post 6528224)
Thanks everyone for the responses, I will contact snap-on to get instr. manuals.

I do have a couple of motorcycles so I am leaning towards the newer version which will accomodate those nicely, and I like the idea of having the option to lock at different heights.

Has anyone found a way to lift a bike on the older version? Maybe someone has welded up an insert to lay between the beams?

Cheers,
Scott

Get some steel square tube and make 2 rectangular frames that will let the wheels sit down in them a little. A support to prevent tipping could be fabbed up to your liking easily.

timmy2 09-25-2013 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drola (Post 7673741)
i am about to buy one of the new style snap on lifts. do you guys have any issues with the motor/tranny clearing the back of the lift when removing from car?
it seems like the tranny is too far under the car and the lift will be in the way.

Not a problem if you position the lift correctly. Rear deck bar is in line with back of the cars floor. (Forward of shift rod entry)
A lot of the lift is under the front of the car. Lifting at A arm/TB pivots with wooden blocks up front.
Looks precarious, but my car was rock solid on there engine and tranny in or out. (Believe me, I was shaking the think a lot to test while lifting!)

Rear bar/deck position:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1380141187.jpg

Engine and tranny in the car:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1380141206.jpg


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