Pelican Parts Forums

Pelican Parts Forums (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/index.php)
-   Porsche 911 Technical Forum (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/forumdisplay.php?f=8)
-   -   New purchase resto - which way to go (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?t=899052)

Cook&Dunning 01-18-2016 03:27 PM

I might tinker with some very minor stuff like the cooler and switch out the headlight covers - just so I could put some minor tweeks of my own on it - but let's face it - this is a seriously cool car as is. I suggest you preserve it, take her out and lubricate her as often as you can, knowing this baby just gets better with time. This is a keeper. Awesome car.

canuck964 01-18-2016 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avanti (Post 8962337)
BTW, what's in the cooler?

My buddy had an old Datsun 510 race car and he ran an air hose thru a cooler and out to the driver. Really ghetto air conditioning.

I don't think this is the case here.

What a beautiful car with racing history. I would leave it as is.

Jonesy78 01-18-2016 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canuck964 (Post 8963002)
My buddy had an old Datsun 510 race car and he ran an air hose thru a cooler and out to the driver. Really ghetto air conditioning.

I don't think this is the case here.

Geez. FAST Racer Series Cool Suit System

Bill Douglas 01-18-2016 07:10 PM

You are joking - right?

gliding_serpent 01-18-2016 07:44 PM

There is an easy answer to the OP's question. Ignore the prior opinions. This is a black or white answer.

If your goal is to simply make money on a sale with no love for these/this car, return it to stock original, and sell the race parts separate from the car. Max profits, although a proper restoration to stock will not be without cost (unless you can do a quality DIY), even with current early S prices, so do the math.

If your goal is to keep it like it is, and enjoy the car for what it is, with disregard to looking at these cars as a business... do what it takes to make it comfortable "enough" for your street use needs, and enjoy it. Maybe a half cage, some carpets with some sound deadening, a muffler, softer suspension, and maybe a tune that runs something other than race gas.

Very cool car.

javadog 01-19-2016 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javadog (Post 8962586)
Restore the 67S to bone-stock original; take all of the go-fast parts and put them in another tub and make a hot rod. Leave the cage out, so you can drive the hot rod on the street.

JR

At the risk of offending just about everybody else in this thread, I'm going to repeat myself. Worse yet, I'm going to elaborate on my points.

It's likely the OP is not a vintage racer. So, I'd wager he's not pondering a career in vintage racing with this car. If he wanted to do a few track events each year, on a more casual basis, he has a GT3 RS that is eminently suited to that usage.

Without intending to disrespect the guy that built and raced this car, its racing pedigree is meaningless. Vintage racing, club racing... neither adds anything of value to the car's history. That value comes from significant competition in historically important races, or use by a historically important driver. This car would appear to have neither.

Its not a period correct race car. Its been modified with all manner of things that look out of place on a 67S. If it were built as it would have been built by the factory in 1967, using only components and ideas they used in that era, there would be a stronger case for keeping it the way it is. But it is not. Far from it.

So, it makes more sense to take some of the "race car" out of it and add some of the "street car" back into it. How far do you go? You start with making it legal, losing the cage, the fuel cell, the driver cooling crap, etc. Might as well paint it the original color, since you will be doing some paint work and the OP likes the original color better, anyway. If none of the stock parts had been kept, a hot rod might be the best choice as a goal. But, he has all the stock parts and they are in good condition. Forgetting the value, almost every hot rod I've sat my butt in has been a disappointment to drive, compared to a stock, perfect, original 911. They lose the refinement built into a stock 911 and often the "gains" are more in the owner's head than real.

A '67S is an interesting car to drive. It's an interesting car to look at. People forget how different the early 911s were to even the '70's long hoods. The first 2 or 3 years production, even the base 911s, are nothing like the cars that came afterwards.

If the OP wanted another hot rod (don't forget, he has a modified 930, too) he could buy some other tub and use all the leftover go fast crap to build whatever floated his boat. There's a 912 tub for sale in the classifieds for under 5 grand and he'd be doing the world a favor by undoing the carnage that was afflicted by someone else on that car, when they started making a hot rod out of it.

charwood77 01-19-2016 06:02 AM

+1

Quote:

Originally Posted by reiver (Post 8962909)
headlights, doorcards that would allow side windows (rsr leather strap mechanism), remove front cage (save it), remove cool suit/ stuff in passenger foot well.
Stop work.
Drive it......if this car has been a race car for decades it has history worth saving and enjoying as close to 'as is' as possible.
All of this can be done and then returned to full race without issue.
Beautiful car.


wachuko 01-19-2016 06:41 AM

D) Sell the car as is and buy a street/project car...

Cory M 01-19-2016 07:06 AM

Remove that big block of lead ballast from the passenger floor, corner balance it, put some headlights in it, unstrap the cooler, peel off the decals, and drive the crap out of it.

mrm930 01-21-2016 06:24 AM

thanks everyone - all opinions are appreciated

my first thought is - street hot rod. Yeah, keep it as a racer is also a possibility, however the cost of doing steady racing campaigns is prohibitive. Too much money needed for tires, transport, race fuel, entry fees, etc. Don't have that kind of disposable income at this time

Still mulling this over

BullStandsAlone 01-21-2016 07:35 AM

Sell it. Buy something that needs work.

voitureltd 07-02-2019 09:28 AM

Now reconfigured somewhat and on BAT. interesting to see what the current BAT peanut gallery and bidders think of it now.

IROC 07-02-2019 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JacobS911 (Post 8962845)
Time to start vintage racing in my opinion!

^^^This. I would only do whatever is required to make it eligible for vintage racing and I would enjoy it just like it is.

nkotselas 07-02-2019 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrm930 (Post 8966385)
thanks everyone - all opinions are appreciated

my first thought is - street hot rod. Yeah, keep it as a racer is also a possibility, however the cost of doing steady racing campaigns is prohibitive. Too much money needed for tires, transport, race fuel, entry fees, etc. Don't have that kind of disposable income at this time

Still mulling this over

Really, don't touch the car. You bought a car in perfect condition for what it is, if you wanted a project you should have bought a beater or at least a stockish slightly out of shape sc.

This car has been meticulously maintained and upgraded, with a very clear idea for what it is supposed to be. You will start pulling stuff out and realize your vision won't really come to fruition without a ton of work then you'll be in over your head or you'll just want to revert it back to what it currently is.

So I agree with just about everyone, sell it and get something else. Or at least please just enjoy it as is for at least a couple years so you can gain an appreciation for all the work the PO put into it.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:02 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website


DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.