I Think I Have The Last 993 Off The Line Not Seinfeld.

storm6490 · 08-31-2008, 10:06 AM

Hi all. Don't get all worked up over this but we have a 993 that came off the line after Jerry Seinfeld's did. So I think... This was a custom order black 1998 c2s that was made december of 97 and delivered march of 98. it has the stainless exhaust deleted seats turbo wheels and racing seats just the way my dad wanted it. He puts very few miles on and it is in showroom condition with just over 5k miles on it. If any of you know how to tell if this is the last one please let me know. We do not plan to sell this one at any cost. It was his dream car and he worked all his life for it.

Here is the VIN

wp0aa2992ws321341

wouldn't this indicate that it is the last one shipped to america? We talked to a guy that said it is most likely and told us to talk to our dealer. Our dealer usually jumps thru hoops to make us happy and he never returned out call even after we waited and called him back. maybe he was told to shut up about it since seinfeld gets all the special orders and it may piss him off if he didn't have the real deal. either way its strange that our dealer wouldn't get right back to us on it after having a long term relationship with them and dozens of sales..

Let me know what you guys think. This is not a hoax, we just want to know if we should put it in bubble wrap or keep enjoying it for a few hundred miles each year. Thanks

Nick K.
Whitefish Montana
storm6490@bresnan.com

Bear911 · Bear911's Garage

According to the 911 Red Book, the 993 was produced in Turbo and 4-wheel-drive form until July 1998. I cant find the VIN you state however, the closest being the W Program 993 Carrera range:

Carrera US/Canada WPOAA299CWS320001 to 1353

storm6490 · 08-31-2008, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bear911

According to the 911 Red Book, the 993 was produced in Turbo and 4-wheel-drive form until July 1998. I cant find the VIN you state however, the closest being the W Program 993 Carrera range:

Carrera US/Canada WPOAA299CWS320001 to 1353

This one was sold as the last one:
wp0aa2998ws321327
It has a nice custom 911 badge and everything....
if ours has a vin of wp0aa2992ws321341 wouldn't that mean that its 14 cars newer than the one that is supposedly the "last one shipped to america"

I dont know much about vins... anyway, I think and hope I have got something extra ordinary here!

Thanks

jwetering · jwetering's Garage

Well there's no doubt you have *one* of the last 993's built, but I expect that Jerry's car may have been pulled off the line and brought into some sort of special wishes/customizing shop where it got some special treatment including the badge you reference. Meanwhile, your dad's car kept on going down the assembly line.

Porsche may have *started* building Jerry's car before your dad's, but Jerry's car was probably *finished* later....and this is after all the important bit when it comes to laying claim to the *last* air cooled Porsche ever built title.

Still a cool car though, and maybe more valuable because of the extremely late VIN.

storm6490 · 08-31-2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jwetering

Well there's no doubt you have *one* of the last 993's built, but I expect that Jerry's car may have been pulled off the line and brought into some sort of special wishes/customizing shop where it got some special treatment including the badge you reference. Meanwhile, your dad's car kept on going down the assembly line.

Porsche may have *started* building Jerry's car before your dad's, but Jerry's car was probably *finished* later....and this is after all the important bit when it comes to laying claim to the *last* air cooled Porsche ever built title.

Still a cool car though, and maybe more valuable because of the extremely late VIN.

Cool, ours was custom ordered as well, it was mfg dec 97 and delivered mar of 98. he had suspension, brakes, stainless exhaust, stainless door jams, race seats, rear seats deleted, turbo wheels and a few other things done to it directly from germany before she was shipped over.

You would think that to have the last 993 you would need to have the last body not the last one that came out of the custom shop.

Another interesting thing I was told is that there were 2 of each model produced and stored away just before this one. that would make sense in the difference between the seinfeld car and ours.

Thanks for all your help. I will keep looking into this...

Carl Bauer · Carl Bauer's Garage

Ruf in Pfaffenhausen has around 10 993 as unconstructed 'bodies in white'. I'm sure that if you asked kindly you could obtain one and sent it to Werk1 and you'd have the last one built for the time being.

Porsche built Micheal Schumacher a 959 well after series production ended so there's some precedent for situations like this...

storm6490 · 08-31-2008, 03:22 PM

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storm6490 · 08-31-2008, 03:23 PM

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storm6490 · 08-31-2008, 03:24 PM

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storm6490 · 08-31-2008, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Carl Bauer

Ruf in Pfaffenhausen has around 10 993 as unconstructed 'bodies in white'. I'm sure that if you asked kindly you could obtain one and sent it to Werk1 and you'd have the last one built for the time being.

Porsche built Micheal Schumacher a 959 well after series production ended so there's some precedent for situations like this...

The vin would indicate that it was made in 2008 then correct? I know it's a cool car and all but I think the vin makes it even more special in this case. Thanks for the info. It would be cool to get a custom one some day.

the · 08-31-2008, 03:33 PM

I remember some dust up about the "last mustang" (old 60s one) made.

Ford has the last one, by serial #, in its collection. But some guy has one that has a lower serial number, but claims it actually came off the assembly line later. Apparently cars don't always come off the assembly line in exact sequential order, so at least 2 people can sometimes have a claim to the "last one."

storm6490 · 08-31-2008, 03:41 PM

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I remember some dust up about the "last mustang" (old 60s one) made.

Ford has the last one, by serial #, in its collection. But some guy has one that has a lower serial number, but claims it actually came off the assembly line later. Apparently cars don't always come off the assembly line in exact sequential order, so at least 2 people can sometimes have a claim to the "last one."

I can see that happening with a ford or whatever but this one has all the same options as Seinfelds and a later vin as well. The only thing different is that his has a 911 badge on the back and a plaque on the back seat.

I'm starting to think that this is not only the last c2s but the last 993 ever if they made only 14 more after seinfelds and let 7 out to the public. I'd like to find the other 13 vins after his and before ours to see what all they were.

Any way to find out the port of entry date on the cars or the mfg date and delivery date of seinfelds? ours is mfg dec 97 and delivered march of 1998. Don't think it gets much later than that..

Thanks for your help!

Carl Bauer · Carl Bauer's Garage

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Originally Posted by storm6490

The vin would indicate that it was made in 2008 then correct? I know it's a cool car and all but I think the vin makes it even more special in this case. Thanks for the info. It would be cool to get a custom one some day.

No, I'm sure the VIN's aren't stamped at all.

Super_Dave_D · Super_Dave_D's Garage

One of Jerry's (he claims) cars on ebay - not the last but man its pretty!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1997-PORSCHE-911-TURBO-S-W-8-255-MILES_W0QQitemZ300254476103QQihZ020QQcategoryZ1015 6QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

jh225 · 08-31-2008, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Super_Dave_D

One of Jerry's (he claims) cars on ebay - not the last but man its pretty!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1997-PORSCHE-911-TURBO-S-W-8-255-MILES_W0QQitemZ300254476103QQihZ020QQcategoryZ1015 6QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Man is that a gorgeous car.

WPOZZZ · 08-31-2008, 08:57 PM

You know what, just enjoy the car by driving it. That is what Porsches are for.

Jagshund · 08-31-2008, 09:18 PM

Amen. Baseball cards are for collecting; Porsches are for driving. Don't be like those folks complaining about Porsche building too many cars and, "ruining their value as collectables . . . "

storm6490 · 08-31-2008, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WPOZZZ

You know what, just enjoy the car by driving it. That is what Porsches are for.

Yep! They sure are. Lots of other toys to choose from but this one is the crown jewel of the garage for some reason. Probably because he dreamed of one since he was a kid. He puts 500 miles on it every year and services it more than it needs. When we do drive it she gets a good work out. Just sucks that you have to wait in the car when it is parked... A little paranoid about door dings and jealous *******s in redneck ville...

Jagshund · 08-31-2008, 09:45 PM

Redneckville? Do you live in Holly Springs too?

storm6490 · 08-31-2008, 09:47 PM

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Amen. Baseball cards are for collecting; Porsches are for driving. Don't be like those folks complaining about Porsche building too many cars and, "ruining their value as collectables . . . "

Nope, not a porsche snob, just really curious about the vehicle since the dealer got all quiet after we questioned them about the vin vs the seinfeld car. I think it is a historically significant issue since to me the porsche kinda died when they walked away from air cooled engines. We get 500 miles on it every year and let her rip.

I will complain about porsche making a boxter and a suv. They both suck.